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beautifulspam
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 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: Designing a course for the AS intellect |
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Here's my ideal college course syllabus.
There is no homework.
There are no worksheets, quizzes, or class participation grades.
There is exactly one, very difficult final exam.
Your grade on this exam is your grade for the year.
You get 4 chances to take different versions of the exam. One at the beginning of the year, one at midterm, and two at the end of the course.
If you score a satisfactory grade on any of these exams, that is your grade for the year. You can sleep in for the rest of the semester or keep trying for a higher score.
No deadlines to remember, no team projects to negotiate, just a fair and objective measure of your mastery of the course material. |
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CockneyRebel
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I think that this is a very inovative idea. |
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TheMachine1
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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I dropped speech class and I had to give a speech in biology that had me shaking I was so scared. So I would make public speaking for speech class only and not make it a requirement for a chemistry degree(like it was at my school).
Yeah no homework is a must. Thats one thing I felt a real since of contentment with working a long hard days work and not having to worry about home work. Homework is
something more suited to some regimented workaholic society like Japan. |
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foxman
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I approve.
THere's actually a prof that teaches pretty aspie-friendly courses at my school...He does want a lot of class participation, which could suck...except that the classes are all really small, since they're so hard. Also, snarky comments are acceptable, even encouraged, which is fun. He has a paper, and two ridiculous exams, midtern and final. I find his exams to be amazing for my aspie brain...we have to be able to identify exerpts pulled from about 400 pages of political writings, with over 40 authors. I loves it. |
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Anubis
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I'm going to have to disagree on the huge final exam. I think it should be done in a modular fashion, but with all the modules at the end. 3-4 weeks of exams, sure, but it's better than just having a huge exam in one day. I'm all for exams, but I don't like them to be too long.
I'm against coursework and stupid jumbled up, disorganized worksheets. Coursework gets on my nerves so much.
There should be an informative and organized textbook, which isn't too brightly coloured, but at the same time, has clear diagrams.
Also, a big black and white worksheet where you fill in the blanks and label diagrams. The syllabus should have lots of background information to keep things interesting, and general detail. Also, they should have informative tables.
I hate writing too much and copying.
Standard secondary school level courses should be relevant, but not too specific. There should be higher, standard, and foundation level courses for which entry is determined by partially grades, and partially choice.
I also believe that religion should be kept the heck out of education, except in citizenship lessons(which teach kids about tolerance, respect, and what that does for society. It isn't forcing opinions on anyone. That would be split into two tiers in general, compulsory education.).
Secondary school kids should have more courses, but over a certain time period. Primary schools must focus on the basics.
New subjects should teach older kids who are in their final two years of high school the basics they need to understand society, including how society works, different governmental systems and basic politics, also the basics of economics, basic psychology, cooking(people need to learn how to cook properly), and home studies. People not understanding things leads to degeneracy and is bad for society.
Students should, in the sixth form years, take up to 4 courses which DO NOT have coursework, but are modular.
The exam boards should come under joint teacher-government control.
Naughty kids should be punished harshly. Not to go so far as stun-sticks and canes, but hard detention and isolation would surely sort it. Oh and play music that naughty kids are sure to hate. Today's youth is infested with obnoxious vermin who must be punished. Perhaps some courses teaching them the effects of their bad behaviour will do the world of good. Also, most (bar Caffeine and Alcohol) recreational drugs should be condemned at all levels. Students should also have basic courses in manners and productive behaviour. Kids must be aware of the problems caused by binge drinking, however.
Though neutrality must be kept in the classroom, there are certain movements that are counter-productive. That's where pointing out the truth and facts comes in. If anarchist/dysfunctional/racist/religious fundamentalist parents have a problem, they can go to Somalia.
I also take back my points about propaganda I said before. Propaganda should be used to get the right message out to the general populace. Kids should be educated with a firm direction towards becoming intelligent, informed, stable law-abiding citizens. If other groups use propaganda, then so should the government SO LONG as it is supported by solid facts and there is a need for it. However, the propaganda should not be on the level of brainwashing or dumbing down.
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MrMacPhisto
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: |
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I thought about that idea about secondary school I think the grades would be much better. What is the point of doing Homework you do enough work at school. Maybe have a fun quiz or something as an end of term things as well make it a bit fun.
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Sedaka
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Designing a course for the AS intellect |
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| beautifulspam wrote: | Here's my ideal college course syllabus.
There is no homework.
There are no worksheets, quizzes, or class participation grades.
There is exactly one, very difficult final exam.
Your grade on this exam is your grade for the year.
You get 4 chances to take different versions of the exam. One at the beginning of the year, one at midterm, and two at the end of the course.
If you score a satisfactory grade on any of these exams, that is your grade for the year. You can sleep in for the rest of the semester or keep trying for a higher score.
No deadlines to remember, no team projects to negotiate, just a fair and objective measure of your mastery of the course material. |
they do something similar in a lot of colleges in europe.
i know ppl that go like a yr w/o taking an exam. but if you F up.............................................................. /cry
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kittenfluffies
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Sounds great to me. Where do I sign up? 
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I like it. I would like to have the option to take quizes throughout the semester to make sure that I am understanding the material. These would be optional and not part of the final grade. I hate going on thinking that I understand something only to have the test present the info in some weird convoluted way that I seem unable to decipher. |
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beautifulspam
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | they do something similar in a lot of colleges in europe. |
Sadly it would never work in the USA.
Currently, anyone who tries hard and consistently shows up, in most programs, gets a big cheesy A.
We are much too uncomfortable with the idea that someone might do their best in a class and still fail.
That just wouldn't be fair! |
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gwenevyn
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If college were like that, I wouldn't have dropped out. 
Ah... group projects....  |
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Smelena
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Hooray to no homework .... the biggest time waster ever invented.
My older 2 sons have Asperger's and they've had their special interests incorporated into the curriculum.
It's amazing how dinosaurs can be used to study English, Maths, Science, History etc
Group Projects *tears out hair contemplating them* - they have got to go!
Also, there should be lots of quiet, private places where people can go when they need time out. My boys have a cupboard they like hiding in. They take a pillow, a blanket and a teddy bear. |
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Pugly
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| Smelena wrote: | | Hooray to no homework .... the biggest time waster ever invented. |
Homework is not all bad. Many times it is implemented just horribly, and given out as just busy work. If you already know the subject and have a passion for it then homework is not going to do much good. It's just destructive to learning.
On the other hand, if the homework is good it can really help in learning. It is good to have focus given by instructors that know what they are doing. You could spend all day trying to find problems to work out, or you could get problems tailor made to help you in learning the material.
Also if a class were set up like this I know exactly what I would do if I was not interested in the subject, I would procrastinate like crazy for the whole semester and then try to cram for the exams towards the end. I need some sort of structure or guide to keep me focused on something I am not interested in. A small amount of relevant homework and a quiz every week can do wonders.
And in my math classes, getting knee deep into hard problems is the best way to get the subject into your head. The struggle to understand and finally figure it out is powerful. And the best way to get to this is a gradual increasing difficulty, where the problems are perpetually just a little bit beyond what your mind can take in. Perfectly chosen homework can do this.
It probably takes too much dedication and care to implement... but at least this, to me, is ideal.
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curiouslittleboy
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| O.o I would crap my pants from anxiety if my entire grade all came from a single test. >< |
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Neuromancer
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Here your proposal is basically consider a conservant one. I believe 40 years ago schools here were very close of what you propose, I guess things were like this at US 100 years ago. Ask your granfather about it, and try to compare your school and old people ones... just a guess.
I like your proposal, also I believe contents should be different for different people, specially maths should be avoided to most people, that will not learn it. |
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