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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: To all aspie christains Reply with quote

Do any of you ever find the bible nearly impossible to understand with all o the symbolism and stuff. I was wondering if any of you ever think that an aspie/autie bible would be a good thing for someone to create explain all that symbolism and stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, yes. Execpt for the fact that the different Christrian traditions have different interpetations.

I have a study Bible. There is actually more introductions, maps, footnotes and end notes in it than Bible!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, the Bible is so hard to understand, with the olive trees and candlesticks, and dragons and three headed monsters and such Confused Interpreted literally, half of the Bible sounds like some sort of surreal nightmare. I wouldn't be for tampering with the Bible, though. The Bible is the Bible, and it shouldn't be added to. I think that maybe a seperate book, a guide with many of the most credible interpretations of the figurative parts of the Bible. I don't know, but it's a very good idea you had Very Happy I hope eventually someone does something like this!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never bother reading, and I sort of lost my Bible again about a month or two ago. When the preacher preaches he explains the symbolism fairly well. It is confusing though, if I try reading on my own.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another aspie Christian here. I don't really know how to help you with the symbolism, but then again I hold to a pretty literal view of the Bible.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol sarcastic posted his 666 post about Christainity lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Symbolism can be confusing for me at times, but I've got a Bible that has lots of footnotes. With enough study time, it will become easier to figure out what the symbolism means in each circumstance.

Mockingbird wrote:
I agree, the Bible is so hard to understand, with the olive trees and candlesticks, and dragons and three headed monsters and such Interpreted literally, half of the Bible sounds like some sort of surreal nightmare.

Well, in some cases the surreal nighmarish symbolism actually refers to events that actually were, and in some cases will be a surreal nighmare. Also, the symbolism of the monsters in the end times is probably the most analyzed of the Bible's metaphors and there's lots of information on it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most analyzed and perhaps most disagreed upon.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim_p wrote:
Most analyzed and perhaps most disagreed upon.

There is such a thing as a generally accepted orthodox veiw on the symbolism, but debates arise when smaller details get scrutinized.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the bible is hard for me to understand. However, I believe it and it has meaning in my life.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

I am personally atheist, myself. But I have had discussions about this. I had heard one time that Jesus chose to speak with such inordinate symbolism (for our times) because in his time, that was very par for the course and even the most uneducated could understand.

That this extreme and confusing symbolism might have been a product of Jewish times because that was whom Jesus was preaching to.

I would think it would be necessary, somehow, to study how such symbolism would be interpreted at the time he taught, if that is possible. That perhaps at the time, there wasn't, culturally, as much room for interpretation as there can be today.


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I would think it would be necessary, somehow, to study how such symbolism would be interpreted at the time he taught, if that is possible. That perhaps at the time, there wasn't, culturally, as much room for interpretation as there can be today.


Yep. That's what the Bible I have tries to do. Jesus spoke to the masses. He used the venecular of the times. He was constrained somewhat by the culture and pitched his discussions accordingly. In order to understand his words, one must understand his times, his culture. IMHO. Others will feel differently.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

although I am agnostic, I do talk a great deal about the bible with my best friend who also happens to be the youth director.

We like the symbolism b/c it really enriches what is going on.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, the symbolism in the bible is too much. My advice to you though is don't bother reading the whole thing. The Sermon on the Mount is what matters the most, just read that a few times.



WHOA. . . . . .

Please be careful what you say. That statement is . . . .quite loaded.
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