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| I could forgive a former prostitute and love her. |
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| I could only forgive a girl with ex-strange behaviour, caus I don't excuse money transaction in this domain. |
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| I certainly would and could forgive a person worth to love. (though my mental image/romantic attitude could suffer) |
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| I certainly would and could forgive a person worth to love. Romantic image wouldn't suffer. |
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| I would "forgive" and love and suffer with the person even more, if he/she is a victim of (nt?-)scialisation or illness. |
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| Basicly my romantic image would suffer and i don't know/wouldn't know how to deal with it. But I wouldn't feel guilty. |
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| Basicly my romantic image would suffer and i don't know/wouldn't know how to deal with it. AND i feel/would feel guilty because of my inner splitting. |
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| I would avoid such people. Perhaps i would feel sorry perhaps no. |
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| I don't feel sorry for that AND i would not accept such people as girl/boyfriends. |
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| My attitude towards such people is bad in general no matter what personal circumstances lead them to selfdestruction. |
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| I would never accept contact with this people besides a work-related manner. |
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kassandra Butterfly


Joined: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 10 Location: false planet
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: Could you love an ex-prostitute/or ex-behaving so girl? |
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Some people have bad socialisation or very bad experiences and never got help.
Some behave or get to be (like) a prostitute. Some men too. Could you love a person, independent of your general attitute towards this kind of people, who had done such strange things in the past?
Could you love a woman doing something wrong in the past? I don't want to explain in more detail, caus i think this is a complicated thread, and I want you to explain yourself and to let your imagination play about possible cases or situations that can occur in your personal life.
Would you habe difficulties to love a person deeply, if you know something not aesthetic or beautiful of her/his life, even if you know it isn't his/her culpability, or could you get affected by the inner sanity of this person even more, when you know he/she has experienced cruel things wich she/he doesn't deserve? Have you an attitude to love someone for his/her philosophy and heart? Cause this is the essential i think.
Many different votes allowed!
Please explain your opinions. Think seriously of that, let your imagination play, not only rational, how cruel life can play its game. And then give a true answer, how would you behave, if a friend tells you about her life. Probably full of fear of beeing rejected?
Your can now see your menta image of that person you like dying.... What would you do? Would you try to be a "good" human? |
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Sopho Emu Egg

Joined: Apr 04, 2007 Posts: 13905
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes. I could. |
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Sopho Emu Egg

Joined: Apr 04, 2007 Posts: 13905
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| But I didn't vote because none of those options applied to me. |
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kassandra Butterfly


Joined: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 10 Location: false planet
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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postscript:
ITS still about sex. Ex-Prostitutes or people behaving similar in tha past. How would you deal with them. Could you like them. Could you understand their suffer, not to have learned to protect their physical integrity? |
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kassandra Butterfly


Joined: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 10 Location: false planet
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Could you than say, what would aply? Or how you would deal this thing, step by step? For example: what would you clarify first?
Or do you know, how you would behave/react? |
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Tim_Tex WP's Resident Simpsons and South Park Aficionado

Joined: Jul 03, 2004 Age: 28 Posts: 22397 Location: San Marcos, Texas
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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I couldn't love someone who was like that. At least not romantically.
Tim _________________ When you need something, that's a responsibility, that only an adult...of my maturity...Bunnies!!!
~Meatwad, Aqua Teen Hunger Force |
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sepia Deinonychus

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Joined: Jul 29, 2004 Age: 32 Posts: 327 Location: N.London
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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someone having that kind of history alone would not phase me but possibly their current attitude to their past would.
some women that i hung out with about 7 years ago went on to do that sort of thing. think it was in large part to do with thrill seeking and also part to do with the fact that they could do that and make a lot of money (compared to say if i did it) but didn't feel they had to (they were both from very wealthy families).
like everything else, i respect people who are largely open with me no matter what. |
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Sopho Emu Egg

Joined: Apr 04, 2007 Posts: 13905
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| kassandra wrote: | Could you than say, what would aply? Or how you would deal this thing, step by step? For example: what would you clarify first?
Or do you know, how you would behave/react? |
Because I wouldn't necessarily have anything to 'forgive' her for. And there are always reasons for women becoming prostitues. I would want to know why, make sure she wasn't doing it any more, and be reassured she didn't have any STDs. |
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Pugly Man-child diligently becoming a Dude, man

Joined: Jan 10, 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 2567 Location: Wisonsin
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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It would depend on how remorseful the person is, and how much they did it.
I would forgive and move on, but I don't know if I would continue anything.
If this was a part of her core personality, I would doubt she would change. If this was a one time lapse of judgement, it would be easier to accept.
I believe that people don't change much from their core personality, and if I felt that this was a part of this person's personality...I doubt I would change my opinion of her. _________________ I hate so much about the things that you choose to be.
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TRUE Phoenix


Joined: Apr 21, 2007 Posts: 710
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I had a thread going on porn, and I removed all my posts. I don't really know what the reasons are, each person is an individual.
There are things that bother me, and it would bother me if it was a guy that I was interested in, whether it be romantically or as a friend. Even an online friend. Why?
Because some of the behaviors come back on ME. A man who assumes he can treat all women like prostitutes is offensive to me. No, not all men do that. But there are men that treat women like they are objects, solely for sexual gratification. A sperm receptacle, if you will.
Men that are in the adult business themselves are equally culpable. As the images generally portray using women. Ack!
Then there are men that are no different than women, in cheapening their body and using it as a commodity to be bought and sold to the highest bidder. It's selling out. Whether you strip for food, or sell your children into sexual slavery, it's selling out to viewing people as objects, as a commodity, as a tool. Devoid of feelings.
Even if the participants are consenting, of legal age, it still demeans the human being.
Next...is marriage legalized prostitution? What? Well, one might exchange sex for money, and housing and financial security? There are those kinds of marriage, with the trophy wife and the purchaser. It can reversed too, these days.
What is "too many"? What is "too much"? I don't know. Perception.
Just like I am too old for some, too young for others...
I would be a cheap tart to some, and an inexperienced bore to others.
So, it would bother me, a lot, if a guy sold his body. In any way. Because that affects all of us. How we are all viewed.
It would equally bother me if a guy sold his mind...like in employment. Or other things. Where he chooses to stop being himself, and discards his own belief system to cater or pander to the wishes of others or because of greed or ego.
That also states that we are a commodity, and can be bought or sold. I don't like that. I just don't like that.
It's been said that everyone has their price. I wonder about that. |
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Santa_Claus Phoenix


Joined: Mar 06, 2007 Posts: 2454 Location: City 17
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Meh, I wouldnt have any hostile feelings toward someone just because they were or are a prostitute. |
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sepia Deinonychus

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Joined: Jul 29, 2004 Age: 32 Posts: 327 Location: N.London
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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oops, just remembered a boyfriend i went out with when i was 17-18 who rent-boyed his way through university (about 10 years before i met him). never asked him that much about it and thought only that it made him imperfect and interesting.
so, out of interest is this a something that you have had experience with or are you just turning ideas over? |
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TRUE Phoenix


Joined: Apr 21, 2007 Posts: 710
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| sepia wrote: | oops, just remembered a boyfriend i went out with when i was 17-18 who rent-boyed his way through university (about 10 years before i met him). never asked him that much about it and thought only that it made him imperfect and interesting.
so, out of interest is this a something that you have had experience with or are you just turning ideas over? |
What is "rent-boyed"? |
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gwenevyn asdf forever

Joined: May 07, 2007 Posts: 6179
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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What's not to love about a repented prostitute?
I don't understand where people are coming from when they can't get over another person's past. This comes up a lot on another board I frequent, in the context of "is it a bad idea for a virgin to marry a non-virgin" and there are always two very passionate but opposite camps.
And especially if the former prostitute (or whatever) is just a friend, there's not even the matter of STDs or anything to consider. There aren't any excuses for not loving somebody who has stopped doing bad things. |
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gwenevyn asdf forever

Joined: May 07, 2007 Posts: 6179
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that people don't change much from their core personality, and if I felt that this was a part of this person's personality...I doubt I would change my opinion of her. |
I like a lot of what you post generally, but I do disagree with this little bit here.
I agree that people do indeed get into habitual poor behavior. I also believe that someone of a certain type of personality or life history might have a stronger pull toward a certain type of misdeed. But genes and influences aren't destiny--choice is always a factor. And one may potentially break free of making those sorts of choices at any time.
We should be wise around those who have shown a pattern of bad behavior--perhaps even a bit wary. And certain types of people are less likely to improve than others. But I don't think we can fairly say that the behavior is part of the personality, as that implies that the behavior is unable to be separated from the person. |
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