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Ragtime
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 Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject: Is Purpose/Pointlessness scientifically evidensible? |
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| My question is not of proof. Rather, I'm asking: Can science give us the slightest indication as to whether our existence has Grand Purpose to it? |
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Awesomelyglorious
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, science can go beyond slight indications and solve our moral problems and determine what is truly important to our souls and salvation. Our metaphysicists have determined using experiments and equations that all of our major religions are wrong and that there truly is only a 3 headed cat god that we must devote our entire lives to hating in order to find enlightenment. |
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calandale
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing can tell us this knowledge.
Not science, and certainly not belief
in some inscrutable God. |
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Ragtime
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Awesomelyglorious wrote: | | Yes, science can go beyond slight indications and solve our moral problems and determine what is truly important to our souls and salvation. Our metaphysicists have determined using experiments and equations that all of our major religions are wrong and that there truly is only a 3 headed cat god that we must devote our entire lives to hating in order to find enlightenment. |
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Ragtime
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| When starting this thread, I was mainly thinking of those who use science to show us a certain "randomness" to our existence, which they say shows there's no grand purpose behind it. I'm showing that science cannot even evidense against the position that a religion is true. |
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JakeG
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| Ragtime wrote: | | When starting this thread, I was mainly thinking of those who use science to show us a certain "randomness" to our existence, which they say shows there's no grand purpose behind it. I'm showing that science cannot even evidense against the position that a religion is true. |
Just to clarify a point here:
If you are talking about quantum mechanics then the existence of randomness doesn't shed light on the problem of whether there is a 'grand purpose to life'...that question is beyond the scope of what science is.
The principle of randomness in QM is in some ways independent from the concept of determinism in a philosophical sense.
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kclark
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Isn't science the observation of the happenings of the material world and the formulation of theories as to why they happen?
Therefore I don't think a purpose to life is something that science can objectively observe as it does not deal with the material world. On the other hand isn't that what philosophy is the science of studying the metaphysical. We all know how definitive of a result we get from philosophy.
So my answer would be no. Science cannot prove nor disprove the existence of a Greater Purpose. |
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Kosmonaut
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| what does evidensible mean ? |
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