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| How much do you like the royal family? |
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6% |
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6% |
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| I dont mind them |
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25% |
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| I dont mind them |
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25% |
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| I hate them |
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18% |
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18% |
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SOK
Raven
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 Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject: Do you like the royal family? |
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| If you are from britain, or are just interested in these things, please answer to ths poll. I hate the royal family. I think we deserve a competent head of state. I also think that they shouldnt get money out of taxes. Taxes should go to useful things like hospitals or schools. |
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duncvis
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I hate the royal family, and the ingrained system of landed privilege and influence which they represent, and which their continued status perpetuates. The royal family are an anachronism and have no more place in a democratic society than the lord of the manor, serfs or hereditary peers with voting rights. 
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BeeBee
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Joined: Apr 01, 2005
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Location: Upper Midwest, USA
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That's an interesting question.
It doesn't seem like the Royal Family are involved in politics...the real head of state is the Prime Minister, isn't it?
We don't have a royal so I rather miss the point of it.
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Sean
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British foreign policy after February 17, 1815 is little more than a curiousity for me. I still don't understand why British citizens still put up with having a monarchy, why the Commonwealth countries didn't follow our lead and have a revolution, and why they still maintain their association with England to this day.  |
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Fogman
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Location: SC, USA
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| BeeBee wrote: |
It doesn't seem like the Royal Family are involved in politics...the real head of state is the Prime Minister, isn't it?
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Actually, QE2 is the Head of State in England. I remember reading Frank Zappa's autobiography. One of the things that stood out was the the fact that he had been owed a substantial sum of cash by the Royal Albert Hall.
--In Short, The Royal Albert Hall Broke a legal contract with Zappa.
Zappa then followed through with litigation against RAH, and after a protracted Period of time, this was (The condensed version of) the Court's decision.
The plaintiff is essentially correct in his complaint against RAH, and the court finds his argument favorable, however, The plaintiff is not a British Subject, who is in essence seeking redress, and compensation indamages from a Royal Institution, therefore the court finds favor in the argument posed by the Royal Albert Hall.
Royal Family???? I could care less about them, because as an American, they are essentially irrelevant to us. However, if I lived in the UK, I would probably hate them much worse than Resident Bush |
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BlackLiger
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Joined: Apr 22, 2005
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Location: My Posh Leather Chair. England.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Sean wrote: | | British foreign policy after February 17, 1815 is little more than a curiousity |
Hmm. Your choice mate.
| Sean wrote: | | for me. I still don't understand why British citizens still put up with having a monarchy, |
I wonder that myself. Although, as 8205th in line to the throne (traced my ancestory at 1 point  ) I can't object  Just 8205 people to kill...... MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
[quote="Sean]why the Commonwealth countries didn't follow our lead and have a revolution, and why they still maintain their association with England to this day. [/quote]
There, its because they have their own governments anyway. They just have the queen as head of state, like Britain. The US was directly governed from Britain at the time....
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Sean
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="BlackLiger"] | Sean wrote: | | British foreign policy after February 17, 1815 is little more than a curiousity |
Hmm. Your choice mate.
February 17, 1815 is when President Andrew Johnson signed the Treaty of Ghent and the British withdrew from US territory. |
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Young_fogey
Deinonychus
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: Reply |
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Lived there and am interested though not nearly as much as many American anglophiles!
I own exactly one piece of royal tat, a Coronation mug from 1953 for Elizabeth II.
Not the 'Princess Diana Commemorative Collector's Plate Set', the kind of thing that naff anglophiles here go in for and I imagine no British person would touch with a 10-foot barge-pole.
Anyway...
I like the Queen. She seems not unintelligent (she keenly follows politics and could run Britain for real) and a devout honourable person of the old school, stiff upper lip, duty before self, etc.
Prince Philip seems, well, über-NT, a sporting man's man who was a complete nightmare of a father for Prince Charles, let alone for somebody with AS or something like it.
There are things I like about the Prince of Wales, like his liking of old things and the spiritual - he likes Eastern Orthodoxy and the old Prayer Book but not modern architecture. Though not blameless in the whole Diana farrago (she was overrated by the public and horribly used by the royals) I feel for his situation with Camilla Parker-Bowles, now the Duchess of Cornwall. He loved her all along. (And I don't think she's ugly!)
Prince William lucked out getting his mother's looks and not his poor father's.
I'm fairly sure that Prince Harry isn't Charles' son but Major Hewitt's, so if (heaven forbid) something bad happened to most of the family the UK could see the end of the House of Windsor and the beginning of the House of Hewitt.
Don't know or care enough about the rest to say much. I don't think the Duchess of York was or is hot. The Duke of York, Prince Andrew, is better looking than Charles.
Seriously, there's something to be said for a parliamentary system with several parties, not just two, for coalitions (more representative of and responsive to the people), and a weak head of state who's ceremonial and in theory above politics (that last is a big selling point of monarchists today). Something that the British system is or potentially can be, more easily than the American with its strong head of state who's directly elected and the seeming intractability of the two-party system.
P.S. Happy Canada Day. You, of course, have the Queen too!
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Sanityisoverrated
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The royal family are a waste of valuable tabloid newspaper space that could have been filled with photos of UFOs, Elvis sightings, and three breasted women. |
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Young_fogey
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:07 pm Post subject: Reply |
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| Think Australia will ever become a republic? I know a lot of people there want that. |
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Feste-Fenris
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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I don't really like aristocracy...
That said the Queen is a classy bird... nothing America has ever produced is as classy as the Queen...
She even has Welsh Corgis... no republic has ever produced anything like that... |
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Postperson
The Daughter of Indifference
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't mind em, it's something to stare at. |
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Feste-Fenris
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly Post!
In all fairness compared to the Bush family and the Kennedies the House of Windsor are almost saintly... |
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Age: 64
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I think you could do a lot worse than a King William. |
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Feste-Fenris
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| A President Bush makes King William look like some sort of Arthur or Aragorn... |
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