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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Sex Reply with quote

I think women can sniff out a male virgin.
there is something about a guy who has never has any that makes him act different than a guy who gets laid all the time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Sex Reply with quote

asspie wrote:
I think women can sniff out a male virgin.
there is something about a guy who has never has any that makes him act different than a guy who gets laid all the time.


I think so. Usually guys who get laid often are calmer, more confident, not desperate, and they probably put out pheromones that virgins and those who don't have sex often do not. Of course, it could be the other way around. Also maybe it's not the case that he acts differently because he has never been laid. Perhaps (and more likely, in my opinion) he never got laid in the first place because of how he acts. It's probably a stinky mixture of all the things I suggested.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Agreed for sure Reply with quote

I def. agree, it was after I started having sex like crazy (I was engaged to this Japanese S&M girl for 3 years) that I started to get many more opportunities to have... well more sex Cool . My one severe Aspie friend just doesn't get any chances, and he often seems like a desparate field mouse or something, just wanting to mate with anything. It's sad, I try to tutor him to be more confident but it just doesn't work well.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Sex Reply with quote

asspie wrote:
I think women can sniff out a male virgin.
there is something about a guy who has never has any that makes him act different than a guy who gets laid all the time.


What, you think blind terror is that obvious?

... it is Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello atomika,
Hope you are doing okay.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, im a 24 year olf virgin, but not by choice, anyways i was told by female friends in the past that women find that cute, and ppl talk, im old to be a virgin, but the whole dating thing is rough for me i dont know how to do it cause im too distant apparently and treat them like they r eather just a friend or are not interested, or both, but at least now i know what im doing wrong, unfortunatly now that i understand im not getting any oppertunity to redeem myself and treat her the way they expect/deserve.

Anyways, as cute as women may think it to be ive never had any luck exploiting it. I hate that 2 cause like u said some can tell if u r a virgin or not and i get that all the time 2, ppl always tell me they can tell i have not been laid, eather in years or my whole life, im like how the hell do they know? Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure how well chicks can sense a virgin; that's an interesting thought...

But I wonder, how much does it really matter? With some chicks, it might be an issue; why, I'm not entirely sure... But, who cares about those chicks; just lump them together with that set of humans who may not be interested in you, and focus on defining the set of those who are, and seeking them out. You need to find a chick with whom male virginity is not an issue; maybe more than that, it can be an asset with some; seek them out by being open and honest about yourself. Maybe find a chick who is a virgin herself. Different people are attracted to different things (wow, duh); your problem is simply finding the chick who is attracted to your unique set of attributes, and I'm sure you have some, everyone does... She's out there. Maybe you'll find her somewhere on the Wrong Planet? I hear it happens.

I think Crazy_Ben is right; confidence is a powerful attractor in many cases. As The Clitorus in South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut said, "Dude, you just have to believe in yourself. Chicks dig confidence." I know, easier said than done. FWIW.

Best of fortune to you, asspie; I'm pullin' for ya, brother.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Icarus,
I am speaking truth here. You can say what you are saying here all day and it is sweet like candy. But the truth is a bitter pill.
The truth is that women are attracted to the type of guys you hate. the self absorbed football playing as*hole. Have you ever heard of a NFL player ever having problems getting a date.
If you are over the age of 15 and you have not had a date you will never be the type of guy women will feel comfortable being around. The process starts early the earlier you have sex and be in relationships with the opposite sex the more women will feel like they have a connection with you.
Geeky things like computers, science, philosophy, and etc will stand in the way of you having a healthy sex life. Do you notice how when you are deep into these type of things you loose contact with reality.


if you are an older virgin you must have sex and lose your nerdy hobbies unless they are making you money.
I suggest that if you are an older virgin you go to amsterdam and visit the red light district. it will take every ounce of nerve to go inside and do your thing with one of these whores. you may not be able to do it. becuase your fear is so deep and intense. You must push yourself. Yes you will feel dirty and stuff after you do this but I guarantee you will feel much better about yourself in the future.
your next step is to have sex with a girl any girl. that you do not directly pay for. This is a slow process but as you complete it you will find women warming up to you. you progressviely get laid with prettier and prettier women until you pass some semblance to a normal man. Maybe if you work on it you can bag one of those really hot honnies that even the alpha males drool over.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asspie:

man thats a tough sell for me anyways, personally i dont mind waiting until i find the right girl, im sure i will someday, just going out and picking up a pro does not mean that now u will b better at getting layed, as much as i wish i could, i would also firstly need to know the girl for a while b4 hand, spend some time with her b4 trust can be established. thats how i feel anyways, as desperate as i may be in the future, the very distant future, a pro would never even cross my mind.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never lose my "nerdy hobbies" for something as fleeting and transient as a roll in the hay with some disease-riddled tramp I'm never going to see ever again. Hell, I'd never do that for a long-term relationship, either...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with MrSinister. I am a virgin and I may be one for a good while because I see no reason to compromise myself in order to get a girl. It's just not a really high priority for me right now.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asspie wrote:
Icarus,
Geeky things like computers, science, philosophy, and etc will stand in the way of you having a healthy sex life. Do you notice how when you are deep into these type of things you loose contact with reality.
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I like a guy who can talk about Science and philosophy. I would never date an Alpha male, how boring.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: chick point of view Reply with quote

Keep the faith, guys. There are girls out there that love 'nerdy' activities. Include the nerd girl, and open a key to the world. Even if her hobbies are not popular, she is still female and great for learning about the psyche of a woman. Most likely, she will be perfectly honest with you and a great ally in introducing you to 'friends', and possible dates. Who knows, one of you will probably end up with her in the long run. It takes some work, but it is worth it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

those who will not comprimise thier principles of not having sex with any girl. I notice the average age here is 10 years old. can you imagine being 30 40 or even 60 years old and never had sex. These things happen. Wil you hold out this long??
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,

I agree, confidence is the greatest aphrodisiac, so is intelligence. and getting it , is not as complicated as it may seem.

first of all, stop letting other people see you as "cute". stuffed animals are cute, they also do not have genitalia. Razz

you don't need to have sex with another person to start being confident in yourself sexually, fact is, you already know some of the things you like because you fantasize and you masturbate, and those are really good tools to find out what your desires are.

second, you're an aspie, so I'm assuming that one of the things you're good at is research. so research sex Exclamation

one great book is "the ultimate guide to sex and disability" also check out the "come as you are" web site, they've got great links and also the joytoyz website.

third, start talking about sex with all those NT girls out there who think it's so cute that you're a virgin! NTs LOVE to talk about sex!! be explicit in your language, don't reinforce the idea that there are "sexperts" and "sexdummies" that's ridiculous! Even if they already know that you're a virgin, they'll stop seeing you as innocuous and start seeing you as an intriguing possibility.
Don't assume that you're not allowed to have an opinion about sex - you're human, ergo you want to get it on! Let people know!

once you're naked with someone it's not so much about technique, which is highly overrated as a means to an end, as about willingness to please and explore, experience is something you'll end up getting along the way, but everybody starts an amateur when in comes to sex, and I personally believe that people who see themselves as sexperts don't listen to their partners as much as those that see themselves as eternal amateurs.

Sex is an extreme form of communication, involving all of your brain and all of your body and all of your senses.

you may want to also check out SM literature on how to become a better communicator, the SM community is usually really explicit about learning proper communication skills, because its so crucial to developing trust.

If any body on this board does decide to use the services of a sexworker, please remember to be respectful, sexworker are people,some of them quite nice, and almost none of them freaked out about whether or not someone is a virgin , or any other form of sexual diversity, they are not sex toys, and treating any of your sexual partners with disrespect, whether you pay them or not, will not help you to develop a healthy attitude towards sex.

if you don't have a sexual partner, I would suggest exploring on you own- it's a lot more fun than watching t.v.1 Razz
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