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Lateralus
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 Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:37 am Post subject: BBC Breakfast News Haif Of Autism Adults Never Leave Home |
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Up early for a change and this was on the news it showed a mother of 3 autistic boys and a mother of a younger autistic boy and the leader of The National Autistic Society. I don't know weither it will be on again might be on the bbc news page later when it is updated. (edit) Is looping on BBC News 24 all day.
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iceb
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: |
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I saw it this morning.
I do find it strange the way the world can compleatly ignore the fact that autistic children grow up to be autistic adults.
My Aunt devoted herself to looking after my LFA cousin.
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Asparval
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:36 am Post subject: |
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In my family there are three of us with AS, me, my nephew and my cousin.
Both my nephew (now in his 30s) and my cousin (now in his 50s) never left home and still live with their Mums.
I am the only one who was able to 'adapt' to the 'outside' world.
Ironically I am the only one to be diagnosed.
I guess that makes it 66.66666(r)% in my family. |
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CockneyRebel
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:50 am Post subject: |
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I'm glad that I'm a part of the 50% who does leave home.  |
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9CatMom
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| I still live at home, but I don't think it's because of my Asperger's. I live pretty much my own life. I lived away from home when I was going to college. It wasn't always fun. I'm glad the days of being with roommates is long over. Now my "roomies" are my cats. They're cleaner, make less noise, and are much better friends. |
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girl7000
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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I think part of the reason why some people on the spectrum are not able to live alone is the fact that they are not properly understood by society.
I am currently looking for supported housing, and there is NO provision for people on the spectrum in my area - the closed they can manage is to put me into housing for people with mental health issues, or just have me live completely independently - which I don't think I could do.
And they are saying that I will have to pay for my support even though I have very little money - I can't afford to pay for support, so I basically won't get any.
So situations like this can easily 'force' people to have to stay living with family because statutory services give me no choice.
Also, the lack of understanding of society makes it very difficult for people on the spectrum to function in society, regardless of how capable they may be.
I, and other aspies and auties I know are frequently bullied in public and don't get sufficient understanding or assistance when using public transport, or speaking with utilities companies - so we are forced to be dependant as society can't be bothered to be more inclusive and to accept that we deserve some kind of equality.
We are often forced to stay at home for the above reasons, and they we get portrayed as pathetic and burdensome when if only there was appropriate support available, we could be a lot more independent - but I bet the BBC didn't mention that. |
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ExeterChris
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girl7000
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Ahh, I see. Well it is good to know that the BBC is paying some attention to what the NAS say - lets just hope the government DO something about this.
(other than just continuing with legislation to detain people with ASDs under the mental health act!) |
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voss749
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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One of the problem is even among those with full time jobs...most of them are single and cant afford a place of their own.
I take home 1200 a month...a one bedroom apartment in my town costs $800 a month. |
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KBABZ
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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My reason for not leaving home and going flatting (I'm heading towards 17) is because I can't imagine being anywhere else and with any other people. The change would be too great for me, and if I had a job I wouldn't be surprised if it cut into it and make me a bad employee.
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Izaak
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm 27 with a full time job. But I don't see how I could live without being at home. Even though I don't talk to my mum that much, she is usually still in the same house. So if I wanted to, she is there. I don't really talk to her much, and I do my own laundry and what not. Without that outlet though and at least the knowledege that if I wanted it, then contact is but a "HEY MA!!!" away I think I would go bat sh** stire crazy. |
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sinsboldly
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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I have no choice but to live independently.
My parents had had plenty of my sh** and put me into a mental institution when I was 17 . I busted out at 18 (age of majority in my state) and have lived by my wits and intuition ever since. I did 'visit' my parents 22 years later to do a Alcoholics Anonymous 9th step and at least got THAT done. But there was little reconciliation, I just got to apologize and take responsibility for all my perceived faults. It was for me, not so much for them.
Anyway they died subsequently and my brother ( "who stayed by us, dear, we are sure you understand") got what inheritance there was.
I really don't know any other way, and I am not consistently employed, so putting my 'stuff' in storage and living out of my car, or some one's garden shed, or a tent is often where I find myself. I am not now, but then I fully expect for the bottom to drop out when I am too old to work ( 8 years and counting!).
whoops. . there it is. . .
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hyperbolic
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| At age 20 I live at home because my job does not pay enough for me to live out on my own. When I get a better job I want to make the transition to my own place of residence, but I also want to save up in case circumstances cause me to lose the job and I can't afford rent and utilities (having read the horror stories). |
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Macbeth
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I dont live at "home" and haven't done for more than ten years. TBH living anywhere is a pain in the ass when youre an aspie.. its just a matter of to what degree, and which aspects. I wouldnt live at "home" because my mother is spectrum too, so when we get on, we get on well, and when we disagree, its a warzone. Too much stress for both of us. Adversely, I'm pretty much unemployable for various mostly Aspie reasons, and living on your own is nigh on impossible and prohibitively expensive on benefits (given how the DWP treat aspergers.) so instead I have lived with a string of increasingly irritating partners or housemates, at great expense both emotionally and financially. (Present partner excepted, as shes fine, present housemates NOT excepted, for reasons that involve way too much swearing to explain in detail.) TBH none of these situations has been acceptable or healthy for anyone involved, and the basis of all the key frustration is that the solution is so simple and profoundly obvious, yet so unattainable without a modicum of external support. Hell, its not even continuous support, just a push.
The issue seems to be that there IS support, and a huge network of people willing to give it, treatments, assistance, etc etc. The problem is convincing the authorities that we deserve or require it.
The (mostly) facetious advice I have for this? Try to "get" something that they DO give a monkeys about. Lose a leg, get cancer, chop off an arm, suck lead until you forget your parents names. A touch of asbestosis perhaps. Then you can get support.
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sinsboldly
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Macbeth wrote: |
The (mostly) facetious advice I have for this? Try to "get" something that they DO give a monkeys about. Lose a leg, get cancer, chop off an arm, suck lead until you forget your parents names. A touch of asbestosis perhaps. Then you can get support. |
yes, I do understand. A man in my AS group drank anti freeze last month. His wife found him stumbling around disoriented and got him to the hospital before he went into a three week coma. He is on dialysis now, and has again applied for Social Security Insurance, having been denied several times.
by the way, could you define what TBH and DWP means? And a "monkeys about?" I am truly not dense, but . . .
thank you
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