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Space
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| Simmyymmis wrote: | | Space wrote: | | I used to lift very regularly. Wouldn't say I was a body builder, but I did gain a lot of muscle mass (fat too though). I have mainly focused on kickboxing the last 1.5 yrs with only a little lifting, as it is a fitness goal in the opposite direction of bodybuilding. I might go back to lifting only though, just because they say women like a guy with big muscles over a skinnier guy who can beat the sh** out of the body builder. I don't know if I ever want to fight, and while I enjoy the training, I wonder if I might be better off spending my time getting huge. |
I'm not sure the two are mutually exclusive assuming flexibility is maintained? There is a very experienced fight trainer at my gym (many techniques). He is a very muscular man indeed, even his legs. He can also do the splits! |
Yeah it depends on the person too. I have only so much time to devote to fitness. Also, speed is extremely important in boxing/thai boxing, and it decreases substantially if you have too much extra muscle on. Though if you have big muscles and are a very fast puncher, you will be deadly. |
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Reodor_Felgen
Counting down till Castro bites the dust
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Scott Mendelson is the world record holder in benchpress, but is also skilled in Karate Kyokoushinkai. Tank Abbott is a MMA legend, and is as huge as a wrestler.  |
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frankwah
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| Ahh, just got back from the gym about an hour ago. I did my shoulders. Today I did five powersets consisting of shoulder presses and reverse flies. Remarkably, I am still making gains in my shoulder presses. I thought I had plateaued a long time ago. Now I'm shoulder pressing 160 lbs (two 80 lb dumbells) over my head in nice slow controlled reps. My shoulders are getting really beefy. When I hang by my hands on a bar, my neck almost completely disappears because my shoulder muscles just flare out. It's pretty badass, I gotta say. |
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moo_cow
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Joined: Nov 02, 2007
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Location: SA, Texas
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I've been trying to become a body building or powerlifter aspie, but it just hasn't worked out. I applied at 4 gyms, so I could get a free membership. I don't have money to buy a membership. I don't have where to put weights at my house besides outside, but that would not be good. My college only allows people who are in weight training class (only during class) to use the gym with free weights. I've took that class twice, but the class is not enough time during the week to achieve results. The other gym is useless to me because it only has bicycles and machines.
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Simmyymmis
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Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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| moo_cow wrote: | | I've been trying to become a body building or powerlifter aspie, but it just hasn't worked out. I applied at 4 gyms, so I could get a free membership. I don't have money to buy a membership. I don't have where to put weights at my house besides outside, but that would not be good. My college only allows people who are in weight training class (only during class) to use the gym with free weights. I've took that class twice, but the class is not enough time during the week to achieve results. The other gym is useless to me because it only has bicycles and machines. |
Would another person, a family member for instance, not be willing to subsidise your gym membership, based on the considerable health benefits? Or perhaps your college would allow you to use their gym when it is free if you wrote or spoke to the head of the department, or the head of the college, itself? I would have thought with the current emphasis on health and fitness, it would be possible to argue for its use on that basis alone. |
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moo_cow
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Location: SA, Texas
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| Simmyymmis wrote: | | moo_cow wrote: | | I've been trying to become a body building or powerlifter aspie, but it just hasn't worked out. I applied at 4 gyms, so I could get a free membership. I don't have money to buy a membership. I don't have where to put weights at my house besides outside, but that would not be good. My college only allows people who are in weight training class (only during class) to use the gym with free weights. I've took that class twice, but the class is not enough time during the week to achieve results. The other gym is useless to me because it only has bicycles and machines. |
Would another person, a family member for instance, not be willing to subsidise your gym membership, based on the considerable health benefits? Or perhaps your college would allow you to use their gym when it is free if you wrote or spoke to the head of the department, or the head of the college, itself? I would have thought with the current emphasis on health and fitness, it would be possible to argue for its use on that basis alone. |
I agree, but they are going to argue that weights are dangerous. This means that they could get sued if someone got hurt. For instance, I recently found out that the about 200 lb squats I do could be very bad for my back with mild scoliosis. However, they should allow people to sign a waver that would make the school not responsible. Do you think I'd have any luck arguing this? I hate to ask my family for more money, especially since I haven't even payed my speeding ticket yet and could have a warrant. I'm trying to get a job and pay for it instead of making them responsible.
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Simmyymmis
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The waiver depends on the insurance policy the school uses. And even then, they will probably realise that even a waiver would not totally absolve them in the case of a personal injury claim. It's a tricky situation that in (less litigious) years gone by would have just been ignored and they'd have let you train anyway.
Your best bet, failing the waiver, is to try and get the tacit agreement to use the gym 'unauthorised' by the PE department or something - ie they 'pretend' not to know you are using it, you 'pretend' not to know you need permission. Shame on your school for being so anti-exercise! Hope this doesn't quell your ambitions to train, as the training can do wonders for your self-esteem, body-image, confidence, health, mood etc. |
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DeVoTeE
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| i am not a bodybuilder nor do i want to be one, but i do like to keep up my weight training three days a week. i don't lift more than ten pounds, which is enough for me. |
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Mc_Jeff
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I like lifting heavy weights alot, but I've never been able to get the "eat clean" part of being a bodybuilder down. I've pretty much quit lifting since I somehow injured my left shoulder (playing guitar hero of all things), and now I can't do my shoulder presses, deadlifts, dips, shrugs, chinups, or basically anything that involves my arms being over my head with weight attached or bent at awkward angles.
It's the worst kind of injury because when I'm not lifting I barely notice it, it's only stiff in the mornings sometimes, but if I try to work out it becomes unusable.
I make do by doing Hindu Squats and pushups, but it's not the same. |
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