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Strapples
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| TheZ wrote: | | If you wanna attack me for stating what I appear is happening - go ahead if it makes you feel better. |
i am not trying to attack you however should you continue to annoy me by repeating "your projecting your own situation blah blah blah" every 3 days i will request you be removed from this thread
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TheZ
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Strapples wrote: | | TheZ wrote: | | If you wanna attack me for stating what I appear is happening - go ahead if it makes you feel better. |
i am not trying to attack you however should you continue to annoy me by repeating "your projecting your own situation blah blah blah" every 3 days i will request you be removed from this thread |
No, what your doing is trying to silence the oppinions of those who disagree with you by threatening them. A moderator or admin can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe I am in violation of any rules whatsoever.
And as far as the every 3 days things I kindly request you quit lying. My first post in this thread was less then 24 hours ago. |
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Strapples
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| Rjaye wrote: | | Strapples wrote: |
*laughing hysterically*
respond to medical condition.... recover... yeah... right!!! check my website please, i have a neurological disease that is very rapidly progressive...
at some point my case is going to look exactly like this... if not worse. but i do NOT want a DNR strapped to the back of my wheelchair for ANY reason... i find that a DNR is not a useful thing when someone is this young. you dont know what the future holds for this case...
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Well, then, you proved my point. You're projecting. And you're inconsistent.
Unfortunately, because you haven't had much experience in life at your age, you're painting people as uncaring because you haven't the experience to judge this situation. Of course, you'll disagree, because you're a teenager and need a chill pill. You're old enough to choose for yourself. And guess what, sweetie...
I know far better than you know. I worked in hospitals for over a decade, then went on to advocate for crip rights, and worked for a while in hospice care settings, I cared for both dying infants and adults.
I've seen far more than people should see from all parts of society. Oh, yeah, I used to work the morgue. So while you may have a unique view, your only experience is YOU. No-one else. Your experience does not represent anyone else's.
Bless your heart anyway. That little lack of theory of mind will resolve the older you get. So will being a teenager.
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sorry TheZ i thought Rjaye's thing saying "your projecting" was yours... didnt mean to attack you for any reason...
and no i am not trying to silence people
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JanetFAP
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| DivaD wrote: | grrr... parents that stupid should be served with a Do Not Reproduce order  |
Some years ago, maybe in the 80s, a baby in my home town was born with down's syndrome . The parents and physician in this small town (as if it wouldn't leak) not only did not resusitate, but made the decision to not give any care so he could die of 'natural causes.'
Of course people found out and someone [unlike the parent] with a soul adopted the baby. Hopefully it all turned out well. I wonder if the parents ever saw the baby growing into a fine young man realized how awfully they had behaved?
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Strapples
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DNR and no care!?!?! Absurd.
Also I would also like to say that this is an old thread and I heard in the newspaper that the DNR on the girl has been overturned by the Illinois courts.
Please do not start heated discussion in this thread, I am not afraid to request lockage.
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In the heat of the moment topic
I remember this is one of the first threads I found when i first joined WP. i was impressed at the passion and empathy of young people who cared enough to post their opinions.
I remember when that young girl named Tracy, many years ago, was euthanized by her father because of "pain" due to CP. Her father spent at least 10 years in prison for manslaughter. Some people herald him as a hero, and some as a murderer. I still have no idea why he did not relinquish his parental responsibilities if he truly thought he could not bear to see Tracy "suffer".
The above is one story which we still continue to find closure.
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CRD
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| Poor little girl should have gotten better parents. They should "fix" hers so they can't have anymore kids. I hope the courts get involed and if I was her teacher I would have quit over being expected to watch while this sweet child dies. |
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Strapples
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| CRD wrote: | | Poor little girl should have gotten better parents. They should "fix" hers so they can't have anymore kids. I hope the courts get involed and if I was her teacher I would have quit over being expected to watch while this sweet child dies. |
As stated in my post above the courts overturned the ruling and the DNR is INVALIDATED. I didn't read enough of the paper thanks to mom spilling coffee on it as to where she was sent, probably re-adoption.
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Strapples
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| sartresue wrote: | In the heat of the moment topic
I remember this is one of the first threads I found when i first joined WP. i was impressed at the passion and empathy of young people who cared enough to post their opinions.
I remember when that young girl named Tracy, many years ago, was euthanized by her father because of "pain" due to CP. Her father spent at least 10 years in prison for manslaughter. Some people herald him as a hero, and some as a murderer. I still have no idea why he did not relinquish his parental responsibilities if he truly thought he could not bear to see Tracy "suffer".
The above is one story which we still continue to find closure. |
Euthanasia is good in certain cases, like if YOU push the button on the Deliverance Machine while you are a 94 year old in ICU dying of pancreatic cancer that has metastatized, otherwise it should NEVER be used unless the person being killed is the person killing themselves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_device
the Deliverance Machine is quite cool actually!
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sorry I missed that it wa a old post and I'm happy to here the court over turned this.  |
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greengeek
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To quote a famous German, her Parents are "life unworthy of life." And speaking of Germans, your German friend could do a number on them with radiation, medical equipment used improperly, or an aluminum baseball bat.
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Strapples
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| Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Strapples wrote: | | CRD wrote: | | Poor little girl should have gotten better parents. They should "fix" hers so they can't have anymore kids. I hope the courts get involed and if I was her teacher I would have quit over being expected to watch while this sweet child dies. |
As stated in my post above the courts overturned the ruling and the DNR is INVALIDATED. I didn't read enough of the paper thanks to mom spilling coffee on it as to where she was sent, probably re-adoption. |
pulled up an archive she is now in a state protected facility for people with severe disabilities called Little Angels go to littleangels.org its a great place... DAMNIT I WANNA GO!
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Putting on my physician hat...
I would be highly reluctant to order a DNR for a person under the age of 18, unless I had some other basis on which to assess the ethical position of withholding care.
If, for example, I had been treating a young person with a degenerative, terminal condition, and had had the opportunity to understand this person's values, principles and beliefs, and if it was clear that these were the patients clearly expressed wishes, then I would feel myself to be on a firm footing in ordering a DNR.
On the other hand, if a patient's committee (the legal term in British Columbia for a person who is authorized under the Patients Property Act to make decisions for a person who is incapable of managing their own affairs) were to request such an order in a medical-ethical vacuum, I would very likely refuse it.
Regrettably, the physicians called upon most often to observe DNRs are not the same physicians who are called upon to make the orders.
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She's cute
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Strapples
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if she was 18 or 19 id call her MINE and run off with her 
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