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 Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: Edward Scissorhands as Aspie fable? |
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I was watching this movie yesterday (for the n-th time). I remember reading some articles that says Edward especially faces the same problems as aspies.
Apart from "ooh, that's interesting" I started to think about the movie. (Very probably if this is true, then Edward is the only aspie character.)
1. Edward's environment and his appearance are very different from that of the rest of the characters. (His world is largely shades of grey as opposed to the pastels of Suburbia)
2. The thing that clearly sets Edward apart (ie -- his scissors for hands) is also the source of his abilities.
3. It is his inability to judge the motives of others which eventually gets him into trouble. |
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right when i saw this movie i was like...oh, my, that's me! i loved it so much that i bought it as soon as i could. he understands human emotions at times but, can be slow when it comes to thinking of the logical outcome. i normally try to think of what the outcome of something will be and it's normally totally different than what i thought it would be. he's so shy as if he doesn't want to say anything but i think the problem may be that he doesn't know what to say.
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that is such an awesome movie!!  |
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I like Edward Scissorhands that movie's well good.
I does show AS traits.
Speaking of fictional characters, do you reckon The Monster out of Mary Shelly's Frankenstein might be an aspie.
I'm talking about Robert De Niro's potrayal in the 1994 movie. |
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Yeah I could relate to Edward and Tim Burton himself. He definitely has aspie traits. I love all his movies. He actually was my obsession a couple of years ago.
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I think Tim Burton is a good film-maker, but he has done a few turkeys.
My favourite is Ed Wood; a marvelous biopic.
Depp is great in the lead, and Martin Landau's performance as Bela Lugosi is a tour-de-force.
(The oscar committee rarely get it right, but his best supporting actor award was well deserved - despite good competition from Samuel L Jackson in Pulp Fiction.) |
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Given that the ending is all about unrequited love, it's a sad metaphor for Asperger's.
A lovely film, though.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Well yes. Much like "the Little Mermaid" and other stories with similar themes. (Love between opposites)
I would call it "bitter-sweet". But Edward is a strong character in his own way and definitely not portrayed unsympathetically. |
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Sorry for being a thread necromancer, but you guys might find this interesting.
http://www.timburtoncollective.com/edwardpsycho.html
One other thing that had he cracking up was all the well meaning people that kept telling him "I know a doctor that I think can help you." There can be so many subtle details if you look at it this way. I know it may not be definitive, but it's still interesting to make the comparison. Edward may have just been a "feral child"/frankenstein/naive machine man, but all of it put together being an autism allegory fits into every moment of the movie, intended or not.
Somewhere else, I read a comment Tim Burton's wife made about how after learning what AS was, she really thinks he may have it. Not sure how reliable the sourse I read it from was, though. |
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| sociable_hermit wrote: | | Given that the ending is all about unrequited love, it's a sad metaphor for Asperger's. |
No, it wasn't unrequited. Just impossible. She did love him.
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| ghostgurl wrote: | | Yeah I could relate to Edward and Tim Burton himself. He definitely has aspie traits. I love all his movies. He actually was my obsession a couple of years ago. |
Tim burton is great!
I have read someplace, can't remember where, but , his "wife" said that she thinks that Tim has asperger's. Right now I am reading the book Burton On Burton, and I have to say if he is not an aspie than then there is no order to the universe.
I heard a story that Tim was sitting in class in hight school. Being tired of getting bullied, so he took out a piece of paper and drew a picture of a person that could be a good friend. That picture went on to become Edward. |
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He would prpbably fit HFA better, since he's mostly nonverbal.
Great movie, btw. I remember watching it n times as a child.
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I thought it was a very sad movie. It made me cry. Everyone liked him except one lady and then after he gets taken advantage of, everyone turns against him except Kim.
It reminded me of when I was a kid, lot of kids didn't like me and I was told "go away" "go home" a lot and when I was 9, lot of the second graders liked me and then they all turned against me and were all mean to me.
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| The stuff he can do with his scissors is basically a savant skill given physical metaphor. |
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Somebody on the DVD extras (interviews) said he is also immature -- in their words, "he has the heart of a cookie".
Had to add that, 'cos I simply love that idea of how to describe a man who is essentially very much like a nervous child.
And yes to shiva (above) that's a good observation about Edward having savant skills.
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