sim
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| It's not exactly the most psychiatric or scientific label, but, hell, anything is better than being bombarded with a bunch of DSM crap. |
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sim
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| spudnik wrote: | | then she tried to send her healing energy to me, I felt real bad, because I asked her which direction I should face, |
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Danielismyname
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... only if they like the color.
I was more of a blue and red child. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:59 am Post subject: Re: Are aspies really "indigo children". |
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| history_of_psychiatry wrote: | According to some new-age theorists and psychics, "indigo children" represent the new wave of human developement. They say these people usually have a higher sense of emotion, higher sense of empathey and intuition, sense of spirituality, sense of insatiable (sic) curiosity, and so on. I've read places that many people labeled as ADD or Asperger may really be indigo. They say that aspies have a lack of empathy, but that's not true. Narcissists lack empathy. Aspies (depending on the aspie) care about other genuinely. They may just have a hard time applying their emotions to the exact social situation. For instance, an aspie may say something to you that you find hurtful even though the aspie didn't mean it to be hurtful. When the aspie realizes he hurt your feelings, he may feel truly sorry. A narcissist doesn't really give a sh** whether or not he hurts you. Anyway, here are some articles on "indigo children". Tell me what you think.
http://www.indigochild.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children
http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html
http://skepdic.com/indigo.html |
What you just explained (didn't click on links yet) describes me well. I do get tired of people acting as though aspies have no humor and lack empathy. I've told jokes alot to where others did not get it and got angry with me. |
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Danielismyname
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| Don't confuse care and compassion with empathy; ASDs have an impairment in empathy, from none at all to a delay in feeling it for example. |
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catspurr
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| Danielismyname wrote: | | Don't confuse care and compassion with empathy; ASDs have an impairment in empathy, from none at all to a delay in feeling it for example. |
"Identifying oneself completely with an object or person, sometimes even to the point of responding physically, as when, watching a baseball player swing at a pitch, one feels one's own muscles flex."
"Direct identification with, understanding of, and vicarious experience of another person's situation, feelings, and motives."
I had to look up empathy.
I do not always understand people's motives. I have lived a life of gaining knowledge and learning what it's like to be in several types of situations. Sometimes I can tell when someone is not a good person however I do have a delayed reaction to what people are trying to do and say that is actually mean-spirited.
The term itself empathy leaves me confused. I was told in the past empathy simply meant you can relate to someone's situation because you have been there too. Is that not what empathy means? |
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Danielismyname
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| catspurr wrote: | | I was told in the past empathy simply meant you can relate to someone's situation because you have been there too. Is that not what empathy means? |
That's sympathy. Empathy is kinda like a lie, but with feelings instead of words, i.e., you feel the emotional state of another, even though you haven't walked in their shoes.
People with ASDs have difficulty in putting themselves in the shoes of others, from not at all to an impaired amount of such. |
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| SierraBell wrote: |
Forget it, you obviously are just immature and just think that your way is the only way to live. You won't be hearing from me any more... |
Perfect example of pseudoscientific thinking, making up rationalizations in order to ignore people who disagree with you. Marxists, psychoanalysts, and astrologers do this all the time
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| koolguy18 wrote: | | the label "indigo" child is nonesense. Child act this way as a result of modern western society's values. Can these childern supposely be found in the third world in equal numbers? No, since they have to woory about eating that day, or surviving war zones. Only child with all their worldly desires given to them, and a overheighted feeling of their value to the world, can "worry" about empathy and feelings in this pure new-age nonesensical way. this is all just a modern twist to religion in my opinion. Also, the label gives childern and their parents a reason to believe they are "special" in a good way(which they usually are not). |
I agree with you. Completely. Just imagine if some (ancient) people hadn't had the presence of mind to come up with farming and food storage, we wouldn't have been able to apply our mind to nonsensical stuff like cities, sewage, plumbing, electricity, guns, swords, clothing, industrializing stuff etc etc etc etc etc etc. And then these special kids wouldn't be considered indigo.
Of course, the 3rd world child doesn't care about all that.
And we're all special, every human being is an individual who deserves attention to develope themselves and be the best most specialist human being they can. (said one of my weird-a** teachers a long time ago)
(sarcasm). But seriously, I agree w/you.
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I have a great deal of compassion for people that suffer. However, I rarely worry. It is not that I do not care about them, but I have difficulty caring for them.
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| Danielismyname wrote: | | Don't confuse care and compassion with empathy; ASDs have an impairment in empathy, from none at all to a delay in feeling it for example. |
I'm extremely empathetic. So not all with ASD lack empathy; nothing is clear-cut in this strange wee syndrome of ours.
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| Pixel8 wrote: | I'm just glad that there are some questions science can't answer.
Who am I?
Why am I here ?
Where did I come from?
Where am I going?
Where is here?
Why am I self aware?
Are we all connected in some way or am I alone?
What is the half of my mind I can't see thinking?
Conventional science wasn't always so steady on its feet
The west got most of its science from Islamic cultures anyway
So give people striving for enlightenment through new ideas a break
And the Esoteric is just science we haven't worked out yet anyway. |
Hear, hear.
As for Reiki... it's a briliant method. Love it. Learning it too! 
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| Danielismyname wrote: | | catspurr wrote: | | I was told in the past empathy simply meant you can relate to someone's situation because you have been there too. Is that not what empathy means? |
That's sympathy. Empathy is kinda like a lie, but with feelings instead of words, i.e., you feel the emotional state of another, even though you haven't walked in their shoes.
People with ASDs have difficulty in putting themselves in the shoes of others, from not at all to an impaired amount of such. |
I agree with the delay in feeling it part, for my case in example. It hits me later than most people. |
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| LeKiwi wrote: | | Danielismyname wrote: | | Don't confuse care and compassion with empathy; ASDs have an impairment in empathy, from none at all to a delay in feeling it for example. |
I'm extremely empathetic. So not all with ASD lack empathy; nothing is clear-cut in this strange wee syndrome of ours. |
Me too. Though I've found my empathy is specific, if I think someone is stupid for feeling a certain way I won't empathise. Like for example, I don't get children who scream and cry when they are dropped off at daycare. I never did that, so I don't get it. You're just at daycare stupid child, mommy will come back, get over it!!! I have no empathy for them they just hurt my ears.
But yes, nothing is clear cut and it seems that one person might have empathy but bad eye contact. One has good eye contact but no imagination. And so on and so on... |
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: Indigo Children My A$$ |
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these new terms are used (by satan  ) in order to get aspies to believe that they have some kind of "special power" when really it is only the fact that god is very much, on their side
all the times that i could see someones past or that someone is not who they say they are it is because god wanted me to see that
all people have a calling from god (whether christian or not). he made everybody with a purpose, i just believe he made aspies this way because our minds can easier handle this thought process |
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