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LeKiwi
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Yick, Starbucks.
That is all.
Revolting coffee and crappy multinationalism = not my cup of tea (scuse the pun!)
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There's one place for me, not to drop off a resume.
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zen_mistress
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Im going to have to find a new place to get coffee now.
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zen_mistress
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Starbucks and Autism Speaks |
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| NewportBeachDude wrote: |
Alex, I love that cup! I love it! I'm happy about all of this awareness and that people are waking up to Autism. So, the next time many of us parents are out there in public and our children are stimming or over-stimulated, when we tell people, "They're Autistic," at least they'll have a frame of reference.
It's a new day for Autism. |
But, surely, as an NT, with good social skills, you can see the negative connotations on that cup.
Can't you?
Wouldnt it be better if the cup just had a message spreading awareness of differences and equality for people with ASDs, along with education for those with ASDs?
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NewportBeachDude
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Starbucks and Autism Speaks |
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| DW_a_mom wrote: | | NewportBeachDude wrote: | Alex, I love that cup! I love it! I'm happy about all of this awareness and that people are waking up to Autism. So, the next time many of us parents are out there in public and our children are stimming or over-stimulated, when we tell people, "They're Autistic," at least they'll have a frame of reference.
It's a new day for Autism. |
I confess, Dude, that I have mixed feelings about the "awareness" that I am encountering. It is great to have people understand when a child has a melt-down in public, that is a very positive thing, but I found it so unnerving when a friend of mine, whose son is 3, was telling me how terrified toddler parents are about Autism. The awareness is feeding fear in parents more than hope, and that is a very negative thing. We really need to be careful HOW awareness is promoted, because fear bears very heavy costs.
Did you read Alex's speech from last weekend, the last few paragraphs where he spoke about policies of hope v. policies of fear? That really struke a chord with me. Too much of this awareness has been built on fear. |
SW_a_mom, where is Alex's speech? No, I didn't read that.
I don't see it as fear. Many organizations do advertising like this. But, Autism was probablyh at the bottom of the barrel. I'm glad it's risen to the top and people are taking notice. Breast Cancer Awareness has messages everywhere you turn, but that doesn't make women walk around fearing they have it. It just makes them aware and do their regular checkups or mammograms when needed. That's how I see it.
I'm thankful for all of the awareness. However, it's a little late coming for many parents.
Can you post a link to the speech you're referring to? |
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NewportBeachDude
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Starbucks and Autism Speaks |
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| zen_mistress wrote: | | NewportBeachDude wrote: |
Alex, I love that cup! I love it! I'm happy about all of this awareness and that people are waking up to Autism. So, the next time many of us parents are out there in public and our children are stimming or over-stimulated, when we tell people, "They're Autistic," at least they'll have a frame of reference.
It's a new day for Autism. |
But, surely, as an NT, with good social skills, you can see the negative connotations on that cup.
Can't you?
Wouldnt it be better if the cup just had a message spreading awareness of differences and equality for people with ASDs, along with education for those with ASDs? |
Zen_Mistress, I see no negative connotation whatsoever. And, parents need to be aware. They need to be aware and get Early Intervention for their children because it can make a huge different in a child's life. Awareness and Early Intervention are truly the key when it comes to Autism. |
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srriv345
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Except that "autism awareness" doesn't actually tell people what autism in all of its various forms actually is. It just bemoans the number of kids who have it, and tells people to beware of the "early warning signs" without giving a single hint as to what they actually are. That phrase in and of itself has negative connotations and demonstrates a profound lack of respect for human diversity. Do you not realize that this way of looking at the issue pathologizes perfectly harmless behaviors like hand-flapping and lack of eye contact? That's a different pattern of behavior and shouldn't necessarily be thought of as a "warning sign" for Something Terrible.
"Early intervention" may be helpful (if safe and ethical), but this mentality can also lead parents to think they need to immediately (and possibly in a rash and panicked manner), thus trying dangerous methods like chelation or behavioral therapy which simply attempts to "normalize." Furthermore, this mentality implies that you absolutely have to act "early" with autism when there actually isn't much science to support that. Autistic people, like neurotypical people, learn and grow throughout their lifespan. I'm not entirely against the concept of "early intervention" but I am against medicalization and over-therapizing.
Autism "awareness" needs to make people aware of the fact that autistic people should be respected, and that "autism" isn't scary. The majority of kids with that classification are high-functioning in comparison with the public image of "autism." Autism Speaks-style "awareness" just exacerbates the problem. |
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NewportBeachDude
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Okay. That's your opinion. Cool.  |
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andriessendude
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I think we as a higher functioning on the spectrum need to remember that we are able to communicate are ideas, thoughts, etc. Now I am annoyed by the ideas that DAN and CAN, etc. But I understand that I wouldn't be where I am today without early intervention. For example there are a lot on the spectrum who can't log onto a forum like this and post their opinions about there thoughts. If they didn't receive early intervention would they have been able to express there opinions if they had received early intervention? Who knows, but I bet you they would have a better chance to. But like I said before, I think parents will know something is going on with there child if they are low functioning. It's pretty visible if they are on the lower part of the spectrum. I don't think Starbucks needs to waste prime space on this topic.
Maybe awareness about something that people need to be aware. Maybe like the amount the American government pays to make weapons that kill so many, and the little it gives to keep people alive. How about cancer awareness!!! But in many though after good advertising space being taken,
I don't see that much a problem with it. Whats the problem with early intervention anyway?
Though don't worry I hardly patronize the mermaid. Piss for espresso, is piss for espresso. As I remembered I try not to drink piss for obvious reasons. |
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yesplease
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| andriessendude wrote: | | Whats the problem with early intervention anyway? |
The degree. What precisely they mean by it. I'd go so far as to say that attempting to modify behavior at that age would be going over the line, however simply encouraging communication and engaging the child wouldn't. |
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Warsie
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I go to starbucks occasionally (for Chai Tea or Hot Chocolae) LOL
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ToadOfSteel
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| I don't drink coffee, and since Starbucks doesn't sell food (at least not good food), I avoid them. |
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archetype
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hahahahahahah !!!!
Yeah, I remember when Starbucks put all the cool cafes out of business cause all the NT's like to have franchises.
Starbucks and Autism Speaks ... they speak for me!
SUPPORT STARBUCKS.
that's fg disgusting.
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ADoyle
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Starbucks and Autism Speaks |
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| alex wrote: | | twallcx wrote: | | alex wrote: | Now Autism Speaks has ads on the Starbucks coffee cups
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Yep, seen that one before, though i usually go to "mom and pop" coffee shops, mostly for philosophical reasons. |
i don't go to starbucks for practical reasons (the coffee sucks). |
I go to a mom and pop coffee shop for my coffee as they roast their beans on a daily basis, and a 1lb bag lasts me a month. It's far better coffee than Starbucks. On the occasions I go to a chain, I go to It's a Grind, which is a local chain.
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ddrapayo
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| I have been boycotting Stabrucks since last Saturday afternoon and will continiue to do so until Sunday night. (I'm Jewish, get it, lol) |
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