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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I turned it on partway through the show, so I missed some of the videos of the son at home. Phil suggested getting the mother help in learning how to handle her son better. She and her husband didn't know how to communicate effectively with him. There was also a suggestion to deal with the effects of the massive antibiotics he was given at an early age.

I didn't see a bitch, I saw someone so completely burned out that she may not be capable of making good long-term decisions for her son. Her husband isn't clueless about what she's going through, but he's not thinking clearly, either. The kid's getting bigger and stronger. If someone doesn't train them and their son to communicate a LOT better, the son will get frustrated someday and injure his mother while resisting her instructions. After that, he could end up in jail or shot by the police. Let's hope they do a better job than that.

BTW, I would add Montel and Oprah as shows to avoid. I only watch Phil if I'm bored or need to know when it's 4 pm.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

auntyjack wrote:
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death note


what do you mean by death note?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about:

DON'T WATCH DR. PHIL EVER!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't watch Dr. Phil, on Tuesday. Reply with quote

CockneyRebel wrote:
Here is the warning:

I don't like that woman's attitude. I feel that everybody deserves to live, no matter what. Obviously that mother doesn't feel that way.


I tend to agree, but how are we defining everybody?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't watch Dr. Phil, on Tuesday. Reply with quote

Jainaday wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Here is the warning:

I don't like that woman's attitude. I feel that everybody deserves to live, no matter what. Obviously that mother doesn't feel that way.


I tend to agree, but how are we defining everybody?


All babies that are conceived, have a right to live, weather they're sick, disabled or typical.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: Don't watch Dr. Phil, on Tuesday. Reply with quote

CockneyRebel wrote:
Jainaday wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Here is the warning:

I don't like that woman's attitude. I feel that everybody deserves to live, no matter what. Obviously that mother doesn't feel that way.


I tend to agree, but how are we defining everybody?


All babies that are conceived, have a right to live, weather they're sick, disabled or typical.


Fair enough.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gbollard wrote:
Sometimes parents just need a break.

Sometimes it feels like we have more than we can handle.

There should be a facility whereby you can submit your child for "minding" for a week. These are often called Grandparents - but not everyone has them - and not all grandparents want to mind kids.

In the old days, when family was closer together, parents and grandparents were generally younger and everyone didn't have to work 24x7, family was always around for support. There's a lot less support now.

Don't go blaming the mother for everything - look to the support networks.



Respite care? I used to help out a couple of families who have autistic/chromosomal/strange-unnamed-disorders children for a few hours a week so they could take their 'normal' children out, or go shopping, or go to the park, go out to dinner... just have a break. If you can find someone willing to do it (often special schools or support groups will have access to them) then it's often a good option just to give the parents and families a few hours to themselves so they can breathe and relax. Some people will take the kids in all weekend a couple of times a month or something.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeKiwi wrote:
gbollard wrote:
Sometimes parents just need a break.

Sometimes it feels like we have more than we can handle.

There should be a facility whereby you can submit your child for "minding" for a week. These are often called Grandparents - but not everyone has them - and not all grandparents want to mind kids.

In the old days, when family was closer together, parents and grandparents were generally younger and everyone didn't have to work 24x7, family was always around for support. There's a lot less support now.

Don't go blaming the mother for everything - look to the support networks.



Respite care? I used to help out a couple of families who have autistic/chromosomal/strange-unnamed-disorders children for a few hours a week so they could take their 'normal' children out, or go shopping, or go to the park, go out to dinner... just have a break. If you can find someone willing to do it (often special schools or support groups will have access to them) then it's often a good option just to give the parents and families a few hours to themselves so they can breathe and relax. Some people will take the kids in all weekend a couple of times a month or something.

The institution am used to live in had an attached respite unit for both adults and children,with some emergency rooms for those that need respite quick,finding the respite is supposed to be the easy bit,it's getting the funding that is impossible for some parents,here-they are supposed to have a respite unit in every borough.


--Add Jeremy Kyle to the list,not just for his treatment of people on the spectrum,but of other disabilities to.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gbollard wrote:
Sometimes parents just need a break.

Sometimes it feels like we have more than we can handle.

There should be a facility whereby you can submit your child for "minding" for a week. These are often called Grandparents - but not everyone has them - and not all grandparents want to mind kids.

In the old days, when family was closer together, parents and grandparents were generally younger and everyone didn't have to work 24x7, family was always around for support. There's a lot less support now.

Don't go blaming the mother for everything - look to the support networks.


Gbollard, just letting you know that many parents with actual diagnosis for their kids can qualify for respite care where someone comes into your home and bascially babysits for you. The parents don't necessarily have to leave the home either. If they have business to take care of around the home or yardwork, they can do that. Or, most respite workers will watch additional children for a fee, normally an additional hourly salary. The respite is not income-based, it is based on the kid's disability and need. It doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, the same families can receive the same amount of hours which can range from 10-50 a month. Respite is negotiable, too, if you feel you need more, but there is a limit.

The agency hiring the workers where we live require that they have CPR and life-saving skills and know how to swim. Reason being everyone has a swimming pool in their backyard. They also do a background check. You can also hire your own respite worker and be reimbursed.

I agree with your statement about support networks. I know that there are inequalities across this nation, but there is a lot of service out there for spectrumers if you know where to look.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeKiwi wrote:

Respite care? I used to help out a couple of families who have autistic/chromosomal/strange-unnamed-disorders children for a few hours a week so they could take their 'normal' children out, or go shopping, or go to the park, go out to dinner... just have a break. If you can find someone willing to do it (often special schools or support groups will have access to them) then it's often a good option just to give the parents and families a few hours to themselves so they can breathe and relax. Some people will take the kids in all weekend a couple of times a month or something.



Oops. I guess my post is redundant. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not at all! Think you just elaborated on it in more detail - great minds an all that. Wink
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