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| Almost identical to standard state school, the methods and curriculum etc, just at home |
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6% |
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| Standard curriculum based but very flexible in hours etc |
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6% |
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| Some/partly curriculum material, for example the minimum necessary to satisfy requirements of a correspondence course |
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18% |
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| "Unschooling", no curriculum, child free to do as wishes |
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31% |
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| Other,please expand in thread if possible |
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31% |
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| Your own, entirely non-standard, curriculum, which child follows |
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6% |
[ 1 ] |
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ouinon
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I know that there's this awful polemical thread somewhere else on the forum, at : http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt60362.html
where someone is mouthing off against state schools etc, really on their soapbox, well, this isn't going to be like that.  
I had an idea, actually it was really DW_a_mom's idea,   , to have a thread about the "beauties" and "joys" of homeschooling. "oui" thinks that this is a super idea. ( "non" is probably going to insist on carrying on with the other thread, but so long as he doesn't come and make himself a nuisance on here that's ok!), so here goes!
No polemic, no rhetoric, no arguing, tub-thumping or ranting, this is meant to be a peaceful little thread in which all homeschoolers can share what their days are like, exchange ideas, etc.
I actually have almost no idea what most/other homeschooler's days are like, or rather I do have ideas but I wonder if they are correct . I look forward immensely to hearing about other people's versions.
We get a newsletter every three months from the french organisation we belong to, but it now occurs to me that only one issue, in the 6 years that we have received it, dealt with learning disabilities of any kind. It was about dysphasia, language/speech difficulties/differences.
I was very grateful for it, but it would be wonderful to hear about people from wp's experiences of homeschooling/home-un-schooling.
I also made a poll, just to get an idea of the kind of homeschooling that people do, thinking of people who don't want to post about their approach for any reason.
Will post my "day" in few minutes.....
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rachel46
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I voted "other" because this is only our 2nd year of homeschooling and I'm exploring unschooling right now. My son is 11 and I pulled him out of ps after 3rd grade. I immediately bought workbooks and books, etc. so we could "do school" at home but with a lot of time, talking to other homeschoolers and reading online I decided that didn't make sense for my son. My son is gifted and very particular about what he learns - nearly every time I sat down and made a carefully crafted curriculum (2 weeks worth no less!) he would give me the "this is boring" whine. I would, of course, get angry and hurt - how could he not appreciate my hard work? But, in reality it WAS boring - he just didn't really care to learn about the American Revolution or the Incas at that moment. Why did I think he HAD to?
That is the beauty of homeschooling that I've, after a very long time, finally discovered. I've discovered that right now there is no "Education Emergency" for my son. He has learned the basics and everything else is fun and extra learning. We bought a Pre-Algebra book that he hasn't started yet but I know (because he is a math whiz) he will at some point pick it up and just start it. Next week he will attend a Famous composers class -Duke Ellington is the subject and then a free Beginning Sign Language class at the library.
We are currently going through a book of Science Experiements and he is picking ones that look fun and we just do them.- He loves it! Contrast this with a Chemistry 101 curriculum I bought earlier in the year and tried to do "the school way" We lasted about 4 lessons and then my son honestly said "this is boring" (I agreed!) and I sold the books on Ebay.
We use the internet, the dictionary, programs on TV, encyclopedias, books, the library, homeschool classes, swimming at a local indoor pool for $5.00, movies, hanging out with friends, real life experiences, trips to Chicago museums (we live nearby) for our learning.
It's a very freeing experience that has helped my son 1000% |
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ouinon
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Thank you, Rachel. That sounds great.
Our day: my side of it; i wake up around 8.30, make myself a green tea or warm juice, and get to computer before son ( he is allowed to grab it, if it is not in use, from 9.00 onwards only!). Look at mails etc, come on here, write passionate diatribes on various threads until am exhausted , towards 11.00, at which point yell up to 8 year old son asking if he wants the internet.
Think that perhaps we will need to eat at some point so clear table , throw rubbish and do a minimum necessary of washing up to be able to prepare something. Spend an hour or so cooking etc. Eat either at table, if son is hungry at same time, or with a book in the big chair. Begin to want the computer back.
Should explain we "live" in one big room, so even when one of us on computer for example we exchange fairly frequent comments, questions, etc. except when son stays in his room, which he often does happily for hours on end, busy.
Remind son that he'd better eat before it's time to do the obligatory hour and a quarter of homework so that he doesn't die of inanition in the middle of it. He cedes reluctantly to this logic, around 13.00. I go back on the computer. At about 14.00 or as soon after as I remember to I shout to son that have to start homework. Discussion about why we have to do this might take a few minutes.
From 14.15 until around 15.30 or 16.00, depending on how much still has to be done, we sit down and do exercises like labelling different kinds of human teeth on a diagram, or cutting out squares, triangles and parallelograms to make "amusing"  animals and personalities with, ( this is called geometry... sorry, remembered, no polemic ), or write 10 lines about something or other, conjugate verbs etc.
If it is Wednesday we don't do homework, I take son, on foot, to fencing class which lasts 1 1/2 hours. We go to library on the way back. ( Karate is Saturdays). When it isn't the rest of the afternoon is calm, with us negotiating use of the computer between us.
Evening.. um. Mind's gone blank. Will have to get back on that one.
Ok: son.. The morning, if mum on computer stay in room till 10.30/11.00 ish; ( ed; by son) thinking, drawing , reading, telling stories, constructing things with lego, making plans for games on paper. Go on computer as soon as is free, and stay on it as long as possible. Favourite sites/games: Lego: Mars Mission, Junkbot, Bionicle, Worldbuilder, Nightfall, and Megablocks platform, shooter things etc. Some Playmobil. Runescape, and Miner Disturbance. Ranges from shooters, platform, puzzles, strategy, to roleplay, and story based.
Will read when not on computer, or play with toys etc, as above..( he just dictated last few details to me  ), and in the evenings often gets own supper. After says goodnight reads or plays/builds lego etc until about 21.30.
Anyway, that's it for now. I look forward to reading others.
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Phagocyte
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I do not have AS, so feel free to disregard this post if it is not relevant.
I had a pretty good experience with it, though. I was homeschooled from fifth-grade through high-school by both of my parents. Throughout that period I wrote and read extensively, went to a lot of museums, and a large emphasis was placed on the sciences. At sixteen I simultaneously took classes at a local college and did pretty well, though admittedly most were science classes that I had a difficult time not enjoying.
Our approach wasn't really that structured, but it wasn't really a worry as the subjects that interested me were the ones that most people felt their child would neglect if there was no structure. Heh... I just started as a full-time university student, and, after an admittedly rough first semester of adapting, I'm doing okay.
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Smelena
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I part-time homeschool by Aspie sons last year (1 day at home 4 days at school).
We went to a Autism / Asperger's clinic in the morning.
Then lunch.
Then I let the boys do what they wanted. I'd tell them they had to choose a project and complete it by the end of the day.
They would usually take photos and write stories to match.
Or conduct some scientific experiements and show me.
I have decided to cut them back to 4 days per week again. My 9 year old son is in a computer streamed class and can work on his school projects at home. We've had problems at the school this year (outlined extensively on other posts) but in the last week there have been major improvements at the school.
They are now setting him projects he can work on independently in the computer lab by himself. (He finishes the regular schoolwork quickly then puts his hand up asking for more work ) He is doing work on these projects at home. To him they are not work .... just fun. Anyway, I may cut him back to 3 days/week at school, 2 days at home ... will see how things go.
Some projects are: getting the school website up; movie making - clay animation; blogging
In our area there are heaps of homeschooled kids. We know a lot from Taekwondo.
Some parents homeschool with their own curriculum.
Some of the students are doing distance education at home - they have access to teachers funded by the state. The distance education allows them to get an OP score which in Queensland is required to get into university. I'm sure there are other ways to get into university if you don't have an OP score - but I wouldn't have a clue. A few of the students I have spoken to at Taekwondo have only started distance ed when they were 16 to get the OP score. They report they are enjoying it.
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ouinon
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Thank you very much, Smelena and Phagocyte, for your posts.
It is wonderful to hear about other people's experiences of homeschooling.
I hadn't thought of demanding/proposing projects (yet), probably because until a year ago my son still didn't read, and he seems to learn so much just following his own nose. But if stagnation sets in that sounds a good idea; a sort of framework/springboard to jump off of.
We live in a tiny village now, so not much in way of "culture", ( we're lucky to have a library in fact!), but the nearest town is do'able by bus, and has a few galleries and a museum, etc, and I have been planning to go in to check them out.
But the time passes so fast, and there's always something to think, or play, or read, or discuss, that there sometimes almost doesn't seem time for the official homework and eating in the same day.
(Don't worry; he eats well and healthily!)
Thanks again. This is great. Thanks to DW_a_mom too for the idea.
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Smelena
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They love their projects. They usually think up their own, but they'll ask me if they can't think of anything. Their projects are always to do with their special interest so it's fun for them.
While they're doing their projects they get so excited. Lots of happy flapping.
At the end of the day they love showing me their project.
Last year the school incorporated their projects into their IEP. They gave show and tell at school the next day showing off whatever the project was. This actually resulted in them forming friendships with kids that had similar interests.
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Tortuga
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I picked "other" because I am ensuring that he can pass annual exams for English and Math, like any public school student in our state. However, standardized exams are not that demanding. Even with my son's difficulities with school work, he can pass these annual exams.
I supplement the curriculum by allowing him to study his special interests in more detail than he would at public school. |
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ouinon
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An afternoon in the life of...
Last weekend we saw the homeschooling family who moved near by recently. They are renting space in a huge old farmhouse, with big grounds.
It was lovely. The american mother and I spent almost the whole 3 hours talking, ( in english, bliss ), about alternative medicine, cooking, ecology, and life stories, while the two french papas talked about carpentry, mechanics, and the different fuels for heating systems; i kid you not!  The two-year old little girl stayed mostly in her mothers arms, but the almost 7 year old boy and my 8 year old son played, and played , and played, non stop, and in absorbed and passionate ( almost total ), harmony out on the terrain.
They have a very likeable dog too.
It was brilliant.
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NewportBeachDude
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| ouinon wrote: | Thank you, Rachel. That sounds great.
Our day: my side of it; i wake up around 8.30, make myself a green tea or warm juice, and get to computer before son ( he is allowed to grab it, if it is not in use, from 9.00 onwards only!). Look at mails etc, come on here, write passionate diatribes on various threads until am exhausted , towards 11.00, at which point yell up to 8 year old son asking if he wants the internet.
Think that perhaps we will need to eat at some point so clear table , throw rubbish and do a minimum necessary of washing up to be able to prepare something. Spend an hour or so cooking etc. Eat either at table, if son is hungry at same time, or with a book in the big chair. Begin to want the computer back.
Should explain we "live" in one big room, so even when one of us on computer for example we exchange fairly frequent comments, questions, etc. except when son stays in his room, which he often does happily for hours on end, busy.
Remind son that he'd better eat before it's time to do the obligatory hour and a quarter of homework so that he doesn't die of inanition in the middle of it. He cedes reluctantly to this logic, around 13.00. I go back on the computer. At about 14.00 or as soon after as I remember to I shout to son that have to start homework. Discussion about why we have to do this might take a few minutes.
From 14.15 until around 15.30 or 16.00, depending on how much still has to be done, we sit down and do exercises like labelling different kinds of human teeth on a diagram, or cutting out squares, triangles and parallelograms to make "amusing" animals and personalities with, ( this is called geometry... sorry, remembered, no polemic ), or write 10 lines about something or other, conjugate verbs etc.
If it is Wednesday we don't do homework, I take son, on foot, to fencing class which lasts 1 1/2 hours. We go to library on the way back. ( Karate is Saturdays). When it isn't the rest of the afternoon is calm, with us negotiating use of the computer between us.
Evening.. um. Mind's gone blank. Will have to get back on that one.
Ok: son.. The morning, if mum on computer stay in room till 10.30/11.00 ish; ( ed; by son) thinking, drawing , reading, telling stories, constructing things with lego, making plans for games on paper. Go on computer as soon as is free, and stay on it as long as possible. Favourite sites/games: Lego: Mars Mission, Junkbot, Bionicle, Worldbuilder, Nightfall, and Megablocks platform, shooter things etc. Some Playmobil. Runescape, and Miner Disturbance. Ranges from shooters, platform, puzzles, strategy, to roleplay, and story based.
Will read when not on computer, or play with toys etc, as above..( he just dictated last few details to me ), and in the evenings often gets own supper. After says goodnight reads or plays/builds lego etc until about 21.30.
Anyway, that's it for now. I look forward to reading others.
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Ounion, I have a few questions. These are just questions because I'm interested and hopefully we can have a civil discussion.
Do you have a set curriculum for your kid? Are there core academic areas that you feel you need to target and might need extra help with? Are the projects and assignments you're doing grade and age appropriate or based on his own level of performance? Do you have academic goals setforth? And, I'm not sure if your son as Aspergers or Autism, but do you have any outside intervention built into your schedule or is it not necessary?
Last, if this the only child you're homeschooling or do you have others?
Those are the types of things I'd like to know about homeschooling. Again, I'm curious about it and have an open door policy. |
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ouinon
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| NewportBeachDude wrote: | | Do you have a set curriculum for your kid? |
No. What we have is a correspondence course, ( which requires that my son sends in a set of "homework" exercises, every two weeks, for assessment purposes, accredited by the national "Inspection Academique"), so that we don't have to deal with home inspections, ( tests, and visits to check up on how he is doing by education inspectors).
This "minimum requirement" takes about 5 hours a week, ( that is "per week"), to complete, ( if on the other hand we did the course work, all the exercises,etc, that go with it we'd be up till late every night! ). It covers standard curriculum subjects, but we treat it like a series of forms to be filled in as fast as possible so that we can get back to more interesting things.
| Quote: | | Are there core academic areas that you feel you need to target and might need extra help with? |
No. This is where the correspondence course actually comes in handy. We get an idea of what level he is "supposed" to be up to in french reading and writing, maths, science, history, geography, and general knowledge ( eg: days of week etc). Since he learned to read a year ago, chiefly by playing on the internet sites I mentioned, and looking at comic books, I am not worried about any area.
I think it is all within his grasp if/when he chooses to specialise/pursue anything in greater depth. I don't believe he needs to know all about cavemen or french history now, nor any other series of facts like that, because if he ever wants to find out about it he can. I forgot almost everything I was ever taught at school, once it was over. So long as he carries on reading, writing a little, expanding vocabulary, using numbers with no diffficulty, and improving general skills and independence, I'm not worried. | Quote: | | Are the projects and assignments you're doing grade and age appropriate or based on his own level of performance? |
The five hours a week that we work on together are those officially for his age etc. But as I say we don't think of that as the real learning; most of it seems so entirely idiotic and pointless, and with few exceptions unecessarily repetitive and tedious.
The real learning is when he is struggling to work out the necessary multi-factorial process to infiltrate a "spyware" program on Lego's Nightfall game, or calculating the percentage improvement on last Dino Attack score. Or when he is figuring out how to get to A so that he can do C, which together with D and E , if he can complete F so as to get E, mean that he will at last be able to attain B, and finish the game, on a Worldbuilder, or similar strategy/puzzle game.
Or when he invents a dessert which he offers proudly to his papa. Or when he reads the Lego discussion forums and posts questions and advice about games. Or planning how to link up "platforms" in a game he is inventing, and drawing intricate designs/diagrams indicating options/flow of game etc.
| Quote: | | Do you have academic goals set forth? |
No, unless these are. I want him to carry on knowing how to learn, carry on believing that he can find things out on his own, and retain his curiosity and confidence in his own capacities. | Quote: | | And, I'm not sure if your son as Aspergers or Autism, but do you have any outside intervention built into your schedule or is it not necessary? |
No outside help/intervention required. He is somewhere on the Autistic spectrum with a mixture of speech/language delays/fractures, some motor skill "impairment" ( esp balance and sensation of body extremities, etc), and has some sensory issues ( esp. noise, like me), and sensitivity to change, surprise, and lack of limits on imposed activities, ( NB: in his own self-directed activity he doesn't need any "outside" structure/framework ).
Discovered recently that he would very possibly have had many more behavioral problems if he had been going to school, because "sensory overload and some hostility" in a one-hour weekly music class of 12 children started producing some definitely stressed behaviour; gesticulating, grimacing, talking out loud to noone, wriggling, zoning out, etc . | Quote: | | Is this the only child you're homeschooling or do you have others? |
Only one.
This is just how we are doing it. Almost no two homeschoolers are the same; it's as individual as the child and the family. Some people prefer more structure, etc. This works for us.
I'm all for civilised discussion.
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NewportBeachDude
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| ouinon wrote: | | NewportBeachDude wrote: | | Do you have a set curriculum for your kid? |
No. What we have is a correspondence course, ( which requires that my son sends in a set of "homework" exercises, every two weeks, for assessment purposes, accredited by the national "Inspection Academique"), so that we don't have to deal with home inspections, ( tests, and visits to check up on how he is doing by education inspectors).
This "minimum requirement" takes about 5 hours a week, ( that is "per week"), to complete, ( if on the other hand we did the course work, all the exercises,etc, that go with it we'd be up till late every night! ). It covers standard curriculum subjects, but we treat it like a series of forms to be filled in as fast as possible so that we can get back to more interesting things.
| Quote: | | Are there core academic areas that you feel you need to target and might need extra help with? |
No. This is where the correspondence course actually comes in handy. We get an idea of what level he is "supposed" to be up to in french reading and writing, maths, science, history, geography, and general knowledge ( eg: days of week etc). Since he learned to read a year ago, chiefly by playing on the internet sites I mentioned, and looking at comic books, I am not worried about any area.
I think it is all within his grasp if/when he chooses to specialise/pursue anything in greater depth. I don't believe he needs to know all about cavemen or french history now, nor any other series of facts like that, because if he ever wants to find out about it he can. I forgot almost everything I was ever taught at school, once it was over. So long as he carries on reading, writing a little, expanding vocabulary, using numbers with no diffficulty, and improving general skills and independence, I'm not worried. | Quote: | | Are the projects and assignments you're doing grade and age appropriate or based on his own level of performance? |
The five hours a week that we work on together are those officially for his age etc. But as I say we don't think of that as the real learning; most of it seems so entirely idiotic and pointless, and with few exceptions unecessarily repetitive and tedious.
The real learning is when he is struggling to work out the necessary multi-factorial process to infiltrate a "spyware" program on Lego's Nightfall game, or calculating the percentage improvement on last Dino Attack score. Or when he is figuring out how to get to A so that he can do C, which together with D and E , if he can complete F so as to get E, mean that he will at last be able to attain B, and finish the game, on a Worldbuilder, or similar strategy/puzzle game.
Or when he invents a dessert which he offers proudly to his papa. Or when he reads the Lego discussion forums and posts questions and advice about games. Or planning how to link up "platforms" in a game he is inventing, and drawing intricate designs/diagrams indicating options/flow of game etc.
| Quote: | | Do you have academic goals set forth? |
No, unless these are. I want him to carry on knowing how to learn, carry on believing that he can find things out on his own, and retain his curiosity and confidence in his own capacities. | Quote: | | And, I'm not sure if your son as Aspergers or Autism, but do you have any outside intervention built into your schedule or is it not necessary? |
No outside help/intervention required. He is somewhere on the Autistic spectrum with a mixture of speech/language delays/fractures, some motor skill "impairment" ( esp balance and sensation of body extremities, etc), and has some sensory issues ( esp. noise, like me), and sensitivity to change, surprise, and lack of limits on imposed activities, ( NB: in his own self-directed activity he doesn't need any "outside" structure/framework ).
Discovered recently that he would very possibly have had many more behavioral problems if he had been going to school, because "sensory overload and some hostility" in a one-hour weekly music class of 12 children started producing some definitely stressed behaviour; gesticulating, grimacing, talking out loud to noone, wriggling, zoning out, etc . | Quote: | | Is this the only child you're homeschooling or do you have others? |
Only one.
This is just how we are doing it. Almost no two homeschoolers are the same; it's as individual as the child and the family. Some people prefer more structure, etc. This works for us.
I'm all for civilised discussion.
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That actually sounds like a pretty good schedule you've worked out. It's cool to see parents of Autistics so involved in their learning and education. It hink parents of Autistics are some of the best parents I've ever seen.
Thanks for the reply. It gives me something to think about. Like I said, although my son is doing well and we have good programs, I'm keeping the door open. |
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ouinon
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| NewportBeachDude wrote: | | That actually sounds like a pretty good schedule you've worked out. . |
 
The only "schedule" is the hour and a quarter that we spend four times a week on the "homework", and the fencing and karate two afternoons a week. Is that what you mean by "pretty good"; that it is almost non-existent ? !
That's why more and more parents doing it this way refer to it as "home-unschooling"!
Today for instance son got on computer before me ( a little after 9.00),and stayed on it until 12.30. Then he ate lunch, and got ready for fencing class. On way back ( on foot, a 15 min walk) from fencing we went to the library and since getting home he has been reading an Asterix book, and eating potato crisps and a banana. He has been reading me excerpts of bits he is finding particularly funny.
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NewportBeachDude
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| I also noticed you have your son enrolled in Taekwondo or karate. In the past 3 days, I've read about 6 threads where parents happened to mention Taekwondo. I'm going to start a thread on that because I want to know what people think. I will seriously put my kid in it to see if he likes it. If he does, that will be one of his activities. He's got time to do stuff on the weekend. |
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