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Quatermass
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http://www.bigpond.com/news/world/content/20080516/2246694.asp
Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black? Didn't Dubya's gramps bank for the Nazis?
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I don't know but that avatar is creeping me out. 
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Bush and Obama Nazi row! |
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| Quatermass wrote: | http://www.bigpond.com/news/world/content/20080516/2246694.asp
Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black? Didn't Dubya's gramps bank for the Nazis? |
Yes, and Prescott was also implicated in an attempted military coup against FDR. Really though, actively supporting the rise of fascism is rather different from failing to find an effective means of stopping it. Besides, Bush is far exaggerating the threat posed. Not that I'm much of a fan of Obama's, though, for different reasons.
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oscuria
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I don't understand what the grandfather of Bush has to do with W's speech?
If my grandfather killed a family member of yours, would you still use that against me?
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Orwell
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| oscuria wrote: | I don't understand what the grandfather of Bush has to do with W's speech?
If my grandfather killed a family member of yours, would you still use that against me?
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Fair enough. Let's just go by what W himself has done. Well, he's gotten a hell of a lot of people killed. I personally would view that as a negative, and I think most others would as well.
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oscuria
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| Orwell wrote: | | oscuria wrote: | I don't understand what the grandfather of Bush has to do with W's speech?
If my grandfather killed a family member of yours, would you still use that against me?
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Fair enough. Let's just go by what W himself has done. Well, he's gotten a hell of a lot of people killed. I personally would view that as a negative, and I think most others would as well. |
By his actions of going to war, yes. But it at least goes with his motto of not speaking to the terrorist. |
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| oscuria wrote: | | By his actions of going to war, yes. But it at least goes with his motto of not speaking to the terrorist. |
What terrorists were in Iraq before we invaded? I believe Bush speaks with the Saudis. Aren't those the ones who bankrolled Osama? And wasn't Osama himself a Saudi, along with most of the hijackers?
So much for not speaking to the terrorists...
But anyways, I would view "not getting people killed unnecessarily" as a higher priority than remaining consistent about "not speaking to the terrorists."
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oscuria
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| Orwell wrote: | | oscuria wrote: | | By his actions of going to war, yes. But it at least goes with his motto of not speaking to the terrorist. |
What terrorists were in Iraq before we invaded? I believe Bush speaks with the Saudis. Aren't those the ones who bankrolled Osama? And wasn't Osama himself a Saudi, along with most of the hijackers?
So much for not speaking to the terrorists...
But anyways, I would view "not getting people killed unnecessarily" as a higher priority than remaining consistent about "not speaking to the terrorists." |
Saddam was a terrorist/tyrant and there would have been very little concession between Bush and Hussein. |
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iamnotaparakeet
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Also, to blame all people of a type because some of them did something wrong... what is this called? It starts with an "F" and ends in a "y".
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Thomas1138
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I find it rather funny. In the Democrats zeal to gather President Bush and Sen. McCain together, they've opened up a huge opening for Republicans to run against one of Sen. Obama's biggest weaknesses.
Why they want their candidate to own an appeasment comment (President Bush's comments could easily have included dozens of people not named Barack), I have no idea.
| Quote: | | Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black? Didn't Dubya's gramps bank for the Nazis? |
In a six degrees of separation it could be said so.
President Bush (41) served in WWII with distinction and nearly died when his plane crashed in the Pacific. There's footage of him being fished out of the ocean, but it's rarely seen. |
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CityAsylum
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Bush and Obama Nazi row! |
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| Quatermass wrote: | http://www.bigpond.com/news/world/content/20080516/2246694.asp
Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black? Didn't Dubya's gramps bank for the Nazis? |
I'm getting a 404 on that link ^, but yes, he certainly did:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar/print
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