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srriv345
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 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: Autistic boy denied chemo |
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| Jeremy Fraser is an autistic boy who most likely will not live to his ninth birthday in a few weeks because his mother neglected to give him full dosages of his maintenance chemotherapy for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Here is a summary of the situation from ABC News. Respectful Insolence has a good summary of the medical issues, and I've blogged about it myself here. I can't adequately express my feelings about this, but please tell others about this story. The world needs to know that the lives of autistic people are no less valuable. |
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Rynok
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| I skimmed the article. It looks like its a bad, perhaps spiteful or mislead mom, not a case of "He's autistic, lets kill him because his life is worthless!". |
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JamieRose
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| Poor kid. |
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PsychedelicFreak
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Lets hope child protective services intervene so that he may get the treatment he needs. It is probably too late now.
Parents should not be allowed to withhold lifesaving medical treatment from their children, and I can't imagine why any parent would want to. The boy would have probably been cured had he continued the treatment. Now he will probably die. It sounds like criminal negligence to me. |
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I hope they gas/fry that bitch.
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Shelby
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| I don't know what the reason is this case, but I think the article is unfair in its judgement of parents who reject conventional medicine. Chemo is an evil, evil thing that does not always work, and can do a lot of permanent damage to your body. I would not judge any parent who looks for alternative treatments rather than poison their kids with chemo. It is grossly wrong to call alternative treatments "quackery" as this article does when there have been recorded cases of cancer being cured by other means than chemo. |
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beau99
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| Shelby wrote: | | I don't know what the reason is this case, but I think the article is unfair in its judgement of parents who reject conventional medicine. Chemo is an evil, evil thing that does not always work, and can do a lot of permanent damage to your body. I would not judge any parent who looks for alternative treatments rather than poison their kids with chemo. It is grossly wrong to call alternative treatments "quackery" as this article does when there have been recorded cases of cancer being cured by other means than chemo. |
Oh please.
The mother is an idiot, plain and simple.
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| beau99 wrote: | | Shelby wrote: | | I don't know what the reason is this case, but I think the article is unfair in its judgement of parents who reject conventional medicine. Chemo is an evil, evil thing that does not always work, and can do a lot of permanent damage to your body. I would not judge any parent who looks for alternative treatments rather than poison their kids with chemo. It is grossly wrong to call alternative treatments "quackery" as this article does when there have been recorded cases of cancer being cured by other means than chemo. |
Oh please.
The mother is an idiot, plain and simple. |
It confuses me that some parents will not drop their beliefs for the safety and wellbeing of their children. For example, parents refusing to let their son or daughter receive a blood transfusion after being a victim of a car crash, just because they're Jehova's Witnesses.
However, in this case, the mother might merely be tired of the stress of hospitals and her child being ill all the time, and might just be thinking what's best for him. Maybe she does actually care for him, and doesn't want him to suffer anymore.
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srriv345
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And what "alternative" treatments did this mother even try, I ask? The article doesn't mention any at all. I'd also like to see an example of someone who went into long-term remission from cancer with "alternative" treatments alone. If an adult wants to take that path for his/herself, then fine. But don't inflict such dangerous ideas on a minor who isn't capable of making an informed decision--which would be all eight-year olds, BTW.
Besides, Jeremy had already undergone the main chemo protocol, which put his cancer in remission in the first place. His mother neglected to give him maintenance chemo, which is at a much lower dosage than what he had already gone through. Let's keep the facts in mind, please. Chemo is awful, yes. And this mother's negligence made it so that Jeremy's suffering had all been for nothing, because he still got terminal cancer. Terminal cancer is "awful" and can damage the body, too. This shouldn't need to be said. |
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LadyMacbeth
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| srriv345 wrote: | | Chemo is awful, yes. And this mother's negligence made it so that Jeremy's suffering had all been for nothing, because he still got terminal cancer. Terminal cancer is "awful" and can damage the body, too. This shouldn't need to be said. |
Hence the word "terminal". Heh.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning her behaviour. Just playing devil's advocate. There are also other sides to the story that haven't been heard.
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srriv345
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| I've read in various places that the mother also neglected to do home chemo treatments, so fears about hospitals can't be a major factor. (Not that that would excuse her.) |
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| The fact that he's Autistic seems kind of irrelevant to the article. |
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| Yupa wrote: | | The fact that he's Autistic seems kind of irrelevant to the article. |
It said autistic, but it doesn't say where on the spectrum, if he was an aspie, high functioning or low functioning autistic, but depending on it, how hard it would be for a single mother to raise and put his autistic son into all that medical treatment? How many autistic children love it and can't wait for going through all those treatments?
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Shelby
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| beau99 wrote: | | Shelby wrote: | | I don't know what the reason is this case, but I think the article is unfair in its judgement of parents who reject conventional medicine. Chemo is an evil, evil thing that does not always work, and can do a lot of permanent damage to your body. I would not judge any parent who looks for alternative treatments rather than poison their kids with chemo. It is grossly wrong to call alternative treatments "quackery" as this article does when there have been recorded cases of cancer being cured by other means than chemo. |
Oh please.
The mother is an idiot, plain and simple. |
Oh please yourself. I'm involved in the cancer world and chemo is not a very good treatment. I know some people who've managed it with other ways, so don't talk if you don't know. In the case of this article however, I don't think the mother was trying alternative anything, she was just being neglectful. I just have a problem with the article criticizing alternative treatments and know-it-alls who have nothing to do with cancer but think they know how to treat it. |
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