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crisco
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 Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: Aspies as Visionaires |
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I am an aspie and I work for the Feds as auditor. I am aspie. Like an Aspie , I am OCD on hobbies except my hobbies focus on public policy which I means that I am scary and I also know to moderate my views.
I am serious. I have drafted the bi-partisian solution to California Three Strikes Laws. People for years have tried to reform that law but my version keeps the life prison and spilts the offender that commits the Three-Strikes into three different tiers of sentencing.
Essentially, that is solution. Nobody has proposed the three-tiered life sentencing structure and if I get my way, I have changed California Law.
And it comes from Aspie. Our minds are insane. They are visionary. Learn how to have to adequate social skills (just adequate) and let your dreams become reality. Learn the art of compromise and negotiation and then your dreams can be reality.
Let's liberate our minds from rigid thinking to flexible thing as Temple Graneton preaches. Once we do, we are reshape this nation, culture, and reality.
Autism is gift when it is properly treated. Let's talk pride in being Aspie. Yes, we have to make changes to deal with NT worlds but our minds are so powerful that the average NT cannot envision your thoughts. |
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Sceadufaux
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I used to work on a cardiac floor as a nursing tech; we had a very light care patient go into cardiac arrest during my shift (from a reaction to a certain drug), and I ran in there (saw his heart rate crashing on the monitor), hit the Code Blue button, initated CPR on him and everything. I had another tech working the ambu bag (to help with his breathing), and we successfully brought him back. He is still living.
It felt amazing to do something so powerful, something that changed a person's life so profoundly. The guy was only 42, and I was 16 at the time. He is a manager at a local restaurant, and needless to say, I get free meals a lot 
My mom is a high school teacher, and I am constantly helping her develop lesson plans, create new ones, and work on her powerpoints for her. I sub for her a lot, and the kids really feel like they are having fun and learning a lot from me; I give it straight, I treat them like adults, and I worked with several of them to pass their AP exams- first time the school ever had a 100% pass rate of a 4 or higher- 57% of the kids scored a 5, versus only 2% of score reaching 5 the past few years.
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HereComeTheLizards
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People with AS can think 'out of the box' because they were never in the box in the first place.
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bookwormde
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There goes that non-linear non-discriminatory mind again.
Keep up the good work, we are the ones that change the world for the better
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nominalist
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It is nice seeing such a positive, thoughtful posting. I agree on the rigidity idea. I used to be extremely rigid in my thinking. However, since becoming a sociology professor in the middle 1980s and, more recently, a poststructuralist, I have come to see most things in shades of gray. My directed preoccupations combined with the preference for gray over black and white has enabled me to make some useful contributions to my own field, as well.
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Odin
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| HereComeTheLizards wrote: | | People with AS can think 'out of the box' because they were never in the box in the first place. |
I can't even see the box. 
IMO out social deficits are directly related with our ability to think outside the box because we don't internalize social conventions and unquestioned assumptions into our conceptions of "how the world works." This is how, for example, Newton realized that the force that caused an apple to fall to the ground was the same force that kept the Moon in orbit around the earth (before him people, such as Aristotle, tended to believe that the forces on earth were different then forces off it). Or when Einstein came up with Relativity when everyone else was attached to BS notions of "aether."
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Odin
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| nominalist wrote: | | It is nice seeing such a positive, thoughtful posting. I agree on the rigidity idea. I used to be extremely rigid in my thinking. However, since becoming a sociology professor in the middle 1980s and, more recently, a poststructuralist, I have come to see most things in shades of gray. My directed preoccupations combined with the preference for gray over black and white has enabled me to make some useful contributions to my own field, as well. |
Thinking outside the box and rigid thinking don't necessarily conflict, often what gets called rigid thinking or intellectual stubbornness is a result of thinking outside of the box. An example is Einstein's dislike of the orthodox "Copenhagen Interpretation" of Quantum Mechanics, a dislike I share, God does not play dice, dang-it!
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Warsie
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Aspies as Visionaires |
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| crisco wrote: | | Essentially, that is solution. Nobody has proposed the three-tiered life sentencing structure and if I get my way, I have changed California Law. |
to be honest, I would abolish the entire thing. But cool for you
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but our minds are so powerful that the average NT cannot envision your thoughts. |
I'm sure everyone can understand what we say, and vice-versa. But we might phrase it in a way that they won't understand what we're saying
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nominalist
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| Odin wrote: | | Thinking outside the box and rigid thinking don't necessarily conflict, often what gets called rigid thinking or intellectual stubbornness is a result of thinking outside of the box. An example is Einstein's dislike of the orthodox "Copenhagen Interpretation" of Quantum Mechanics, a dislike I share, God does not play dice, dang-it! |
When I refer to "rigid thinking," I mean an unwillingness to consider alternatives.
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spindriftdancer
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| HereComeTheLizards wrote: | | People with AS can think 'out of the box' because they were never in the box in the first place. |
LOL! I've been told I'm 'outside the box' so often in my life. I never knew what people were talking about... I was just coming up with solutions. Eventually I started saying something like what you just said(: I lost my box a LONG time ago, and I don't miss it one bit! |
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spindriftdancer
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Aspies as Visionaires |
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| crisco wrote: | | Yes, we have to make changes to deal with NT worlds but our minds are so powerful that the average NT cannot envision your thoughts. |
Pish.
You're not a super-being or a mutant. You've read too many comic books. However, being intelligent and having made a contribution is not something to put down. Congratulations on finding a way to use your gifts to a good purpose. |
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Inventor
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I would not want to solve the world's problems. For one I do not understand people, the vast majority.
Most of what they do works, it is not the best answer, but one they can deal with.
My answer to poverty would be art lessons. If everyone would study and practice art two hours a week, it would solve unemployment. Cutting the work week to 37 hours would do the same.
Oppertunity created through jobs leads to education and upward mobility.
We seem to have chosen the path of job creation through a prisioner/guard economy.
I agree with the OP, three strikes sounded good, but became a business model, and with the privativation of prisons, with lobbyists, an industry.
Police tend to over charge, for they see armed robbery reduced to trespassing, by an over worked court system.
If you have a lawyer, have studied your crime, it can cost a million to convict you. So a guilty plea to a lesser charge, saves them money and time. They appear to be doing something, which is what being a lawer is about.
These forces collide when the Police charge someone with Felony overtime parking, and they do not understand the game, plead guilty, pay the fine, and on the third count get life without parole.
Under three strikes that is it, over and done with, and someone gets paid for lifetime care.
Lawmakers tend to run for reelection on being tough on crime, but hold there is a second class of white collar crime that gets a prison with a golf course. Their sentance guildlines run in months?
One of their bright ideas was Zero Tolerance, sending a 17 year old to prison for 40 years for a crack rock.
It is not life, they get out, after 20 years, about 600,000 a year. From 17 year old kid, to 37 with 20 years of prison education. This has built some major gangs, run from the inside, what else do they have to do? They know every trick, and have all the experts they need.
They have to have a job, but they do have a network, and outside they have established oppertunities.
So the box thinkers said, put them in a box. Then they need ever larger boxes.
We spend more on prisons than on education. We do not educate prisoners.
Project this out a while, and the whole becomes prisoners or guards, both uneducated.
Some states have had to have early release, because they could not afford it.
Trouble is the kid with the crack rock is a drug offender, and not released, while armed robbers, rapists, burglers, are. The very ones who prey on the people are released, but the ones who lead to reelection are held.
Under three strikes it is set in stone, those can never be released, so people with only two murder convictions are.
I would get tough on crime, life or getting a GED, then for the hard core, second offender, being forced to learn a trade, get an AA, and be paroled to a job paying several times minimum wage. A third offense and it is a BA, or life, and fourth offense is automatic death.
That and art lessons for all, a booming economy, rising standard of living, and higher education for all.
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Warsie
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| Inventor wrote: | | I would not want to solve the world's problems. For one I do not understand people, the vast majority. |
what; your username IS 'inventor'
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Most of what they do works, it is not the best answer, but one they can deal with.
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not per se...many people; the marginalized get f**** over often. It's not dealable for them
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Felinity
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:58 am Post subject: Re: Aspies as Visionaires |
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And it comes from Aspie. Our minds are insane. They are visionary. Learn how to have to adequate social skills (just adequate) and let your dreams become reality. Learn the art of compromise and negotiation and then your dreams can be reality.
Let's liberate our minds from rigid thinking to flexible thing as Temple Graneton preaches. Once we do, we are reshape this nation, culture, and reality.
Autism is gift when it is properly treated. Let's talk pride in being Aspie. Yes, we have to make changes to deal with NT worlds but our minds are so powerful that the average NT cannot envision your thoughts. |
Thank you for your post Crisco. I appreciate the inspiration.
Also, interesting responses..
Inventor, lots of "food for thought" there too.. I think the whole criminal justice system needs to be overhauled personally.. massive prison over-crowding and neglect.. |
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god bless you all
you made my day |
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