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sandra3
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| i would prefer to raise my kids in a world of diversity, and not be ignorant to to other races. |
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PhoenixKitten
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Dear God... I watched an episode of Touched By An Angel the other day, a Christian series that deals with provocative issues. This one episode was about a pro-white group and the havoc they caused, and I passed it off as Christian fundamentalism and hysteria, but this... It is one thing to be proud of your culture and ethnicity, but quite another to degrade anyone who does not share it, or to exclude them. In all honesty I do find something rather cute about little girls with blonde hair and blue eyes, but at the same time I find great beauty in little African girls with braided brown plaits, brown puppy dog eyes and skin that looks like it was chiselled from dark chocolate! It terrifies me, and I think it is an absolute travesty that those girls have been so brainwashed by their mother. I can only pray to God that one day they might realise what they have done, and that the rest of the world may forgive them...
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Ladysmokeater
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Location: North of Atlanta, South of Boston, East of the Mississippi, and West of the Atlantic
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| Happeh wrote: |
Did you know there have been many instances in which the people telling these stories turned out to be liars?
The latest I remember was some spanish guy. See, if you say you are jewish, the rest of them will make sure you are above everyone else. This guy said he was jewish so he got important posts and money.
He got busted when a reporter checked into his story for some celebration I think it was.
If one man lied about being in WWII, how many of the rest of them lied? |
Um.... dude, I hate to break it to you, but the holocaust DID happen. I can not imagine what whould make you think for one moment that it didnt!
Millions of people were killed and you have the nerve to say that it didnt happen!?!
Why dont you stroll on down to one to achwitz, or another death camp in europe and tell us again while you stand over the places where the mass graves were that it isnt real. Or maybe look into one of the furnaces that used to burn, yes burn those poor people to death in and look a holocaust survivor in the EYES and tell THEM that it ddint happen.
Im not jewish, but I had catholic family in Poland during WWII that were murdered by the Nazis for helping Jewish people escape the atrocities of that war. I take exception to your assumption! |
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Sean
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| PhoenixKitten wrote: | | It terrifies me, and I think it is an absolute travesty that those girls have been so brainwashed by their mother. I can only pray to God that one day they might realise what they have done, and that the rest of the world may forgive them... |
So they were born into a white supremicist environment, but have you considered that they may have embraced it's teachings out of their own free will and genuinely like white suprmicism without the use of brainwashing? You seem to be overlooking that there has to be more to their life going around singing racist songs. They would have to go about all the typical daily life activities for such a culture to be sustainable and appealing to anyone. |
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Happeh
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| SquanderedPotential wrote: | i saw that Louis Theroux docu thingy, those poor kids are totally brainwashed. the mom is totally nuts.
| Happeh wrote: | Did you know they stopped a pregnant muslim woman from flying? They would not let her go and she had pregnancy problems while waiting in her cell. I think she miscarried but I will not swear to it.
Did you know they stopped muslim nuns from the philipines because some airline employee say they had "9-11" written on a piece of paper? The "9-11" was either a time to be somewhere, or directions, I forget. They made the nuns miss their flight.
Did you know the USA took a Canadian citizen who was muslim and sent him to Syria to be tortured?
Did you know the USA accused a muslim of spying for Syria? Then it turned out they were totally wrong? Since they hate muslims, they made a big deal about pornography I think it was he had on his computer. For a muslim that was bad. I think his wife might have divorced him.
Prejudice is alive and well in the USA. It is being promulgated by the president of the USA and the political apparatus of the republican party and the zionists. They are both the same thing really. |
scuse me, happeh, but did you know you can claim any old wives' tale online and it don't matter one shite on a stick if you don't have something to back it up? where did you hear all that? do you have any proof? sources? links? anything? bueller? |
Do you have something specific to speak of? I do not understand your garbled reference to old wives tales.
I am certain an intelligent person like yourself knows how to use Google. You are free to spend hours of your time searching for the news article in question if you wish. I do not usually help people who are rude to me. You are on your own if you want more information about the story. |
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Happeh
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| Bec wrote: |
I do not know pooftis, but I think I can answer that question. Holocaust deniers anger people becuase the Holocaust is probably the worst crime humans have ever committed against other humans, the Holocaust did happen, and those who deny that it happened are trying to make it unimportant and do it mainly because of their anti-Semetic tendencies. |
How old are you? Were you alive in WWII? Could you speak on why you are certain about what did and did not happen 60 years ago? I enjoy spirited intellectual discourse. If this subject is interesting to you, I will play devil's advocate if that is what you want.
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Why are everyone's stories so similar then? |
Because they read each others accounts and copy from each other? Because someone somewhere has written a script and gives it to these people to read? Because they were in prison camps in WWII. Just like Americans, British, French, Gypsies, Homosexuals and many many other people.
Did you know that historical studies show that around WWII, there were only 6 million Israeli people in the world? If that is true, if those people know what they are talking about, how can there be any Israeli people left? They claim 6 million were killed, historians say there were only 6 million of them in the entire world.
The math does not work out.
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Even if you think the victims are lying, what about the testimonies from the Russian, British, and American soldiers who liberated the camps? What about the photographs of murdered people lying in mass graves? What about the piles of shoes, eyeglasses, wedding rings, and personal items that were found and had no owners? What about the photographs and footage of the walking skeletons? What about the gas chambers and incinerators that the Nazis did not have time to destroy before the camps were liberated? What about all of the left over Zyklon B? What about the people who are now deformed or have other serious health problems because they were the subjects of the experiments? What about the Nazis' own accounts in court of the atrocities that occurred in the camps? |
What happened to all the other victims in WWII? From "holocaust" propaganda, people today believe that only Israeli people were in prison camps and died. What happened to the Americans and English and French and Russian and Gypsy and Polish and Homosexual etc etc etc? Don't you think some of those unclaimed belongings were theirs? Don't you think some of those walking skeletons were your American ancestors who sacrificed in WWII?
Where is your compassion and empathy for Americans who died in WWII? Why are you so concerned with Israelis people? Is it because the news tells you everyday that you should feel sorry for Israeli people because of WWII? Is it because you are doing what the media tells you to do and think? Or have you thoroughly thought thru everything you have heard and considered all possibilities? |
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Happeh
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| Klytus wrote: | | Happeh wrote: | | duncvis wrote: | | Its still deeply disturbing. Most white power politics seem to me to be driven by fear and hate. : |
Just like Republican politics huh? "All muslims are terrorists! They must be killed!". |
Which Republican said that exactly? If the Bush administration really had it in for Muslims, why did they liberate an Islamic country from an irreligious fascist? |
Liberate an Islamic country? Are you referring to Iraq where the USA "does not do body counts"?
The USA has murdered 100,000 Iraqis between sanctions and the invasion of Iraq. The USA is running death squads in Iraq. They just found another group of 27 people tied up and shot in the head the other day.
Or maybe you mean Afghanistan? Where the USA tested 3 or 4 bombs that are conventional equivalents of nuclear weapons? |
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Happeh
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Ladysmokeater wrote: | | I take exception to your assumption! |
Are you going to stalk me across these boards harrassing me? |
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pbkolstimm
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Happeh does not know where to take a stand for his political issue. At what point does he stop his thread of hate and critique and focus on being more positive rather than stomping on all Iraeli, American, and creative comments. Can HE stop the American military? Was Saddam's government better than the American military presence there now?
And yes Happeh, Afghanistan was liberated from a criminal Qaida regime; and now it is just under the rule of the guns, money, and local warlords with the US and UN military acting as ... little brother.  [/quote] |
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SquanderedPotential
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| Happeh wrote: | Do you have something specific to speak of? I do not understand your garbled reference to old wives tales.
I am certain an intelligent person like yourself knows how to use Google. You are free to spend hours of your time searching for the news article in question if you wish. I do not usually help people who are rude to me. You are on your own if you want more information about the story. |
i apologise for my rudeness but it irks me when people claim a dozen things happened without providing any proof. it's not MY job to google your claims, it's yours.
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Serissa
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| SquanderedPotential wrote: |
scuse me, happeh, but did you know you can claim any old wives' tale online and it don't matter one shite on a stick if you don't have something to back it up? where did you hear all that? do you have any proof? sources? links? anything? bueller? |
Bueller?
Bueller? |
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Ladysmokeater
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Joined: Oct 22, 2005
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Location: North of Atlanta, South of Boston, East of the Mississippi, and West of the Atlantic
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Happeh wrote: | | Ladysmokeater wrote: | | I take exception to your assumption! |
Are you going to stalk me across these boards harrassing me? |
Accually no, I have posted on many boards and I ran accross this post as I have others by chance.... geeze man you dont have to be paranoid.... |
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Happeh
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| pbkolstimm wrote: | Happeh does not know where to take a stand for his political issue. At what point does he stop his thread of hate and critique and focus on being more positive rather than stomping on all Iraeli, American, and creative comments. Can HE stop the American military? Was Saddam's government better than the American military presence there now?
And yes Happeh, Afghanistan was liberated from a criminal Qaida regime; and now it is just under the rule of the guns, money, and local warlords with the US and UN military acting as ... little brother. |
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Confusing post. Not really certain what you are trying to say. Was Saddam's government better than the American presence? Yes. The USA has killed more people thru sanctions and the invasion and occupation than Saddam did. The people are less safe than they were under Saddam. They don't even have regular water and electricity now, 2 or 3 years after the invasion.
No stimm, Afghanistan was not liberated from Al Queda. The government at the time called itself the Taliban. |
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Sean
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| Happeh wrote: | | No stimm, Afghanistan was not liberated from Al Queda. The government at the time called itself the Taliban. |
Same difference. The taliban were all members of Al Qiaeda |
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Bec
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| Happeh wrote: | | Bec wrote: |
I do not know pooftis, but I think I can answer that question. Holocaust deniers anger people becuase the Holocaust is probably the worst crime humans have ever committed against other humans, the Holocaust did happen, and those who deny that it happened are trying to make it unimportant and do it mainly because of their anti-Semetic tendencies. |
How old are you? Were you alive in WWII? Could you speak on why you are certain about what did and did not happen 60 years ago? I enjoy spirited intellectual discourse. If this subject is interesting to you, I will play devil's advocate if that is what you want. |
And how old were you in WWII? During WWII, did you live in Europe? How can you be so sure it didn't happen?
I have been to Europe, and although I did not get a chance to visit any of the camps, my father (who is a history buff) visited Dachau. Everything there is quite well preserved. The footage and photos he took show it. The Holocaust definitely happened.
Besides being fascinated by the Holocaust since I was a little kid, friends of my family have a father/grandfather who was a member of the Hitler Youth, and I have personally met Holocaust survivors. I know what I am talking about.
| Happeh wrote: | | Bec wrote: |
Why are everyone's stories so similar then? |
Because they read each others accounts and copy from each other? Because someone somewhere has written a script and gives it to these people to read? Because they were in prison camps in WWII. Just like Americans, British, French, Gypsies, Homosexuals and many many other people.
Did you know that historical studies show that around WWII, there were only 6 million Israeli people in the world? If that is true, if those people know what they are talking about, how can there be any Israeli people left? They claim 6 million were killed, historians say there were only 6 million of them in the entire world.
The math does not work out. |
When I said 'everyone' you were assuming that I was talking about all the Jews in the camps. Never assume. I was talking about the Americans, British, French, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Communists, and others as well as Jews.
I have extensively studied the concentration camps of WWII for most of my life, and I have never heard of the 'historical studies' of which you speak. Please show me which historians say that only six million Jews existed in the entire world at the time.
| Happeh wrote: | | Bec wrote: |
Even if you think the victims are lying, what about the testimonies from the Russian, British, and American soldiers who liberated the camps? What about the photographs of murdered people lying in mass graves? What about the piles of shoes, eyeglasses, wedding rings, and personal items that were found and had no owners? What about the photographs and footage of the walking skeletons? What about the gas chambers and incinerators that the Nazis did not have time to destroy before the camps were liberated? What about all of the left over Zyklon B? What about the people who are now deformed or have other serious health problems because they were the subjects of the experiments? What about the Nazis' own accounts in court of the atrocities that occurred in the camps? |
What happened to all the other victims in WWII? From "holocaust" propaganda, people today believe that only Israeli people were in prison camps and died. |
First off, the people that were victims of genocide in WWII were not Israelis, as that means the person is a citizen of Israel. The victims of the Holocaust were European Jews. The Nazis murdered approximately six million Jews out of the total ten million they killed. They murdered more Jews than any other minority. Also, if you have not read Mein Kampf, you should. You will see that Adolf Hitler put more emphasis on hatred of Jews than any other group. What happened to other groups (Gypsies, Homosexuals, Communists, etc.) was horrible too. Once again, you assume that I am only talking about Jews. Don't assume.
| Happeh wrote: | | What happened to the Americans and English and French and Russian and Gypsy and Polish and Homosexual etc etc etc? Don't you think some of those unclaimed belongings were theirs? Don't you think some of those walking skeletons were your American ancestors who sacrificed in WWII? |
Yes, I am sure that some of those belongings were theirs. I never said otherwise.
As for those walking skeletons, no, they were not my American ancestors. Once again, assumptions. Half of my family are Irish Catholics who went to Australia in the early 1800s, and the other half were European Jews who went to America between WWI and WWII.
| Happeh wrote: | | Where is your compassion and empathy for Americans who died in WWII? Why are you so concerned with Israelis people? Is it because the news tells you everyday that you should feel sorry for Israeli people because of WWII? Is it because you are doing what the media tells you to do and think? Or have you thoroughly thought thru everything you have heard and considered all possibilities? |
When you want to argue a point, assumptions should not be made. I can have compassion for the Americans, Homosexuals, Gypsies, etc. and the Jews. It is possible to feel compassion for all of the victims. |
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