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Cyberman
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird... I guess the "friend zone" thing applies to males as well... Sad God, I hate this crap...

I'm sorry, Kim.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I probably did something wrong.

Just hope I get to find out what.

Oh, and it would be nice if we could actually remain friends. People always say, "Let's be friends," without meaning it or making it happen. Confused

I just took a good walk and feel optimistic. I suspect I'll find the right one for me eventually.

It's just so strange that this guy could act like he liked me that much, act that way for so long, and do so much to demonstrate it . . . and everything changed so suddenly. I hope this experience doesn't make me fear rejection more intensely in the future.

I hope that I can learn and grow wiser from it instead.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is everyone assuming this means it's over?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jainaday wrote:
Why is everyone assuming this means it's over?


Well, if you heard the message he left me, and listened to a message he left me a week earlier, you'd probably understand.

There's only so much of the situation I can describe in these posts (which are too long anyway).

I could hear it in his voice - he's probably preparing to reject me, and feeling bad about it. Or something else has come up. Who knows.

It was just one of those "it's over" types of messages.

But you're right - I could be wrong. It could all be based on a misunderstanding, or something. There could be a way it could work itself out eventually, especially if we could remain friends, or cross paths again under better circumstances.

If he flat-out rejects me, maybe I should ask him to set me up with one of his punk rocker friends in Australia. Razz Hehehe, I could save up for a plane ticket! And maybe the guy would help to pay my fare! (J/K - well, sorta).

I love older punk rocker guys. I have now discovered that older Aussie punk rocker guys can be especially hot and charming. So maybe I should just pack up and move there! Razz Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EvilKimEvil wrote:

. . .Aussie punk rocker guys can be especially hot and charming.


distinctively true. . . Smile


do let us know how the other thing resolves. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about plan B.

Drug him and then lock him up in your basement, get some stuff kaolas or kangaroos or something to make him feel at home, eventually he will realise he loves you. Twisted Evil

meh

If you are sure he's about to break up with you, maybe be thankful you didn't let yourself get really involved with him and the breaking up would be worse.

Australians are decended from convicts Kim, you should check out New Zealand. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naw, I've heard about you kiwis. Razz And I've heard it's really expensive to live there. It gets cold sometimes.

And you don't have any snakes!!

I like some movies from NZ (uh, correct me if they're from a different country). Well, first and foremost, there's Dead Alive. And I was obsessed wit Heavenly Creatures for a while, when it first came out.

I can't think of any NZ bands I like, though. OTOH, many bands I really like happen to be from Australia. I guess Radio Birdman and The Birthday party were a winning combination for inspiration - at least in terms of what I like.

Anyway, how can you go wrong with a warm country that's like Texas except without guns or the death penalty?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked on the net yeah "Brain Dead" hmm I didn't know that it was called "dead alive" in the states.

They have a real problem with flies in certain places, so you will have to wear a hat with corks on them to keep them off your face.

Yeah NZ is really expensive, hopefully house prices will come down.

Yeah I might end up going over there some stage.

hey you should give NZ a look though, I did some posts in here ages ago

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt57658.html

We don't have any snakes, but we have a flightless bat. All our native birds are hopeless at defending themselves because there orignally no prepators in New Zealand.

We also have a dinosaur I think, well close
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatara

We also bet the wright brothers in the learning to fly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Pearse

That might tickle your fancy
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget wetta crickets. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MR_BOGAN wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
You call the other guy and you cancel this fake date (fake from your side) NOW.

Laughing sorry for being so assertive but you should know that dating a man with a 'he is my plan B/spare part' mentality is the worst insult to the core of a man's manhood (unless if your other guy is too dumb to accept to be emotionally abused in such way and so he obviously lacks manhood in doing so) , and your post has just touched a manhood nerve in myself.


I don't see that as a problem. I mean Kim hasn't got any commitment from the other guy she likes. shrug and she may not.

As long as she doesn't lead him on and remains only friends, there is no problem. I mean when dating you are allowed to date other people, it isn't like she is in a relationship. She may decide she likes the this guy rather than the other guy. Who knows??


She already stated that she's insanely in love with guy #1, there's nothing wrong in open dating but not when you are sure that you are in love with someone specific and still waiting for his/her answer soon.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, I probably did something wrong.



You did nothing wrong , he's just not physically attracted to you.(or maybe he fancies a girl or even in relation with a girl that you don't know about).

We guys are simple, we are either attracted to a girl or not , we don't usually reject based on silly minor "wrong" things done by the girl such as 'she shouldn't do in this way ...she should do it in that way" or '"She didn't pick the right timing..." , "she shouldn't waited that long ..." bla bla . Hope you understand what I mean. A single guy rejects you only if he doesn't find you attractive enough (unless if there's a religious reason)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Men are so complicated........ Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LePetitPrince wrote:

We guys are simple, we are either attracted to a girl or not , we don't usually reject based on silly minor "wrong" things done by the girl such as 'she shouldn't do in this way ...she should do it in that way" or '"She didn't pick the right timing..." , "she shouldn't waited that long ..." bla bla . Hope you understand what I mean. A single guy rejects you only if he doesn't find you attractive enough (unless if there's a religious reason)


That's not completely true. A guy may be simple and not require all that other little minor junk, but attractiveness is not the only criteria, at least not for most men. At least not for me.

There are many women who I 'm physically attracted to... but I wouldn't give them any attention due to their personality and other issues.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pugly wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:

We guys are simple, we are either attracted to a girl or not , we don't usually reject based on silly minor "wrong" things done by the girl such as 'she shouldn't do in this way ...she should do it in that way" or '"She didn't pick the right timing..." , "she shouldn't waited that long ..." bla bla . Hope you understand what I mean. A single guy rejects you only if he doesn't find you attractive enough (unless if there's a religious reason)


That's not completely true. A guy may be simple and not require all that other little minor junk, but attractiveness is not the only criteria, at least not for most men. At least not for me.

There are many women who I 'm physically attracted to... but I wouldn't give them any attention due to their personality and other issues.


Exactly! I also think we are not as hard on physical attractiveness as we are made out to be. Women seem to care more about how they look than we do.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MissConstrue wrote:
Men are so complicated........ Confused


VERY



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