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AS parent, with AS or NT child, NT, Other?
AS parent with AS child(ren) would like separate space
30%
 30%  [ 13 ]
AS parent with only NT child(ren) would like separate space
13%
 13%  [ 6 ]
NT parent
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
Non-parent
18%
 18%  [ 8 ]
AS parent with AS child(ren) would not like separate space
16%
 16%  [ 7 ]
AS parent with NT child(ren) would not like separate space
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
Other
11%
 11%  [ 5 ]
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ouinon
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: *Being AS and a Parent. How many of us on WP?* Reply with quote

Been wondering how many AS parents, ( of either AS or NT children) , there are on wp.

Most of the parents who post on this forum are NT or at least have listed themselves as "Family member with AS" as if any AS tendencies of their own take second place in their activity on wp.

I have been thinking that what I miss on wp is a relatively permanent area to discuss difficulties specific to AS parenting, ( and have the option to start new threads to deal with different issues).

This regardless of whether our child(ren) are NT or AS, although AS children are often later to learn to talk, to use the toilet, etc, etc, and are likely to be more of a strain on AS parents for whom body language is often not as clear as words, and for whom certain smells and textures aswell as physical touch can be stressful, etc.

So I've been posting to this effect on a thread started by Greentea on General Discussion at:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt67988.html

and a couple of weeks ago started a single thread, now a sticky, in the relative privacy of the Members Only Forum at:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt66773.html

But response on each has been small, so I am wondering whether this is because there are very few AS parents on wp altogether, or whether, having AS children, they are satisfied with the opportunities that this forum offers to talk about their parenting experience.

I suspect that there are a great many undiagnosed AS mothers out there , suffering prolonged and severe post-natal depression as I did, but unaware of the AS angle/explanation, because AS in women is probably very much under-diagnosed.

But here on wp, are there lots of AS parents, who sometimes/often feel put off/depressed/excluded/discouraged/denied by the predominantly NT treatment of the issue of parenting because it is always about the problems their AS children are having which need "dealing with"?

Are we a miniscule and insignificant minority, or are there a lot of us who would like a forum , shared with older pre-dx AS for example, or alone, to explore the experience of parenting as an AS, exchange ideas and stories, commiserate/support, about what we have felt and struggled with precisely because of AS?

After all, if the term AS means anything, refers to anything real about how we react to life, AS experience of parenting can not be the same as that of NTs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not dx, but think I'm aspie and my son is autistic and separate from what?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lisa81 wrote:
not dx, but think I'm aspie and my son is autistic and separate from what?

Separate from the Parent's Forum which is described as being for parents of AS or autistic children, and in which the emphasis is on the problems of their AS children, and not on the difficulties that AS parents might be having with parenting because of specific AS issues with noise, touch, control, textures, dependency/responsibility, etc.

At the moment the In-Depth forum ( near the bottom of the main index page) is what was intended to function as the forum for older AS issues, but it is not members only, thus not protected from casual gaze, and is also so far away from top of forum that is little visited/used.

I would not have any problem using the In Depth forum, and in fact plan to increasingly, for such issues as longterm co-parenting problems for AS parents, etc, but some AS parents would like a members only space, and I would like to know how many AS parents there are on wp, and hear from them about their specifically AS experience of being a parent.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there are a few of us Aspies with Children (NT and AS) on the site. I post in the parenting arena regardless. I don't know that we need to separate it into AS parents alone (excluding NTs) as a matter of fact I've learned from reading NT parents and their issues.

I, on the other hand, do believe that we, as AS parents, do have different challenges. I know that parenting for me has been difficult at times. The sound, the noise, the constant demand for my attention. I managed to figure out certain techniques to deal with it all. My kids are now 8 (AS) and 11(NT). My partner is NT, so I have (thank god) her help with them now (we've been together 3 years and before that I was a single parent).

So, maybe my answer is yes...it would be nice to have a place.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DevonB wrote:
I, on the other hand, do believe that we, as AS parents, do have different challenges. I know that parenting for me has been difficult at times. The sound, the noise, the constant demand for my attention...So, maybe my answer is yes...it would be nice to have a place.


Quoted for agreement.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aylissa wrote:
DevonB wrote:
I, on the other hand, do believe that we, as AS parents, do have different challenges. I know that parenting for me has been difficult at times. The sound, the noise, the constant demand for my attention...So, maybe my answer is yes...it would be nice to have a place.


Quoted for agreement.


Agreed as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
But response on each has been small, so I am wondering whether this is because there are very few AS parents on wp altogether, or whether, having AS children, they are satisfied with the opportunities that this forum offers to talk about their parenting experience.

I suspect that there are a great many undiagnosed AS mothers out there , suffering prolonged and severe post-natal depression as I did, but unaware of the AS angle/explanation, because AS in women is probably very much under-diagnosed.


I'm AS and my son is autistic. I found that I obsessed with coming here and living in purely autistic world. I have stepped back and stopped coming and posting as much as I used to. I don't frequent any other forum here anymore. I have started some new activities in RL and feel a lot better about the direction my life is going. I don't doubt there are other autistic parents that have special interests that overshadow their desire to post so much here.
That said, I don't feel a separate AS parent forum is needed. I think it's helpful for NT parents to see how Aspies parent their kids and I think segregating would nurture exclusionist thinking.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Being As and a Parent. How many of us on WP? Reply with quote

Beg to differ topic

I am glad to have a special space. My kids are all NT. I was not able to post in the parents forum. It is only for parents of AS children.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be great to have a seperate forum for AS parents.

I dont think it would hurt to have another forum and people can post on this one sometimes and the new one sometimes depending on how they feel.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lotusblossom wrote:
I think it would be great to have a seperate forum for AS parents.

I dont think it would hurt to have another forum and people can post on this one sometimes and the new one sometimes depending on how they feel.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see something like this. I wouldn't feel right going into the In-Depth forum because it says age 30+ and I'm only 26. But this may be me being new here as well, I feel the same way about talking about marriage issues in the "Relationships and Dating" forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm AS and my toddler is as well, however, I see no need to split the Parents forum into separate categories when the focus of each thread could easily be defined by its title. I also believe that we stand to gain a lot from sharing experiences from our different perspectives in the same context and location.

Perhaps for the sake of the readers our thread titles could look like this: "AS dad/AS son - Communication Issue" or "AS dad to NT parents - how do you...?" Just a thought.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm AS, and I don't know about my daughters. I have stayed out of this forum because it says it's for parents of AS children. I see certain traits in my daughters, but I'm not rushing for a diagnosis yet. As far as forming a new forum goes I think it would be easier for this one to become the overall parents forum. Include everybody. It would be a simple matter of redisignating this forum instead of making a new one.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: i'm an aspie w/ aspie children Reply with quote

i haVE 2 BOYS ON THE SPECTRUM. I WOULD LOVE TO CHAT, BECAUSE I WANT TO DO MY PHD ON UNDERDIAGNOSIS IN WOMEN. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it might be effective, rather than creating a new area on the forum, to broaden the scope of the current parenting section.
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