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Acdy
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 Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: 7 million dogs & cats killed per year in US shelters |
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This view is from someone with Aspergers.
Is this view common among Aspies and Autistics?
Is better treatment and devotion to animals more common among Aspies and Autistics than others?
FWD:
"Many leading agencies and organizations estimate that 10 million dogs/cats enter shelters each year. 10 million, each year. 7 million of them are not placed with anyone and therefore are killed. 7 million, ear year. A genocide occurs each year in the US with dogs and cats.
Americans have FAILED to take part in the endeavor of pet purchasing and ownership with care and respect.
Animal rights organizations FOOLISHLY believe that this problem (7 million a year killed) can be effectively dealt with by encouraging people to adopt dogs/cats, have them spayed and neutered, to care for them better, and so on. None of the efforts to help animals makes a significant impact on this staggering problem.
I believe the solution for the dogs and cats (for their welfare) is to NOT PERMIT THE SALE OR OWNERSHIP OF DOGS AND CATS. To end this endeavor. To end how 7 million per year are killed due to being brought to shelters.
And most dogs, especially, are neglected, even when they have homes - not exercised, imprisioned at home during the daytime (after already having slept all night), given disgustingly poor quality food, not given proper medical care, and sadly, often yelled at, hit, locked in crates, etc.
I'm shocked that this endeavor has gone unregulated by the US government, given the horrific yearly genocide.
And I'm equally shocked that rights organizations etc NEVER make any statements that this would be the best option, given what is happening.
What the rights organizations are doing to help has, in reality, an extremely minimal beneficial effect, given the numbers of animals involved.
Why do rights organizations do this, and why don't they, instead, out of pure devotion to the dogs/cats, fight for this endeavor to be stopped by making statements about this, aggressively, and continuously, and politically lobby for it?"
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LTP
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| I don't see how banning the ownership of cats and dogs would help. In fact it would just result in mass killings of animals when the system is overloaded with even more animals that once could have been owned legitimately. |
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KingdomOfRats
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Maybe should be required to do a test on how to look after pets to be able to have them-and those who fail have to complete a pet care course or cant have a pet.
am think a lot of animals that are sold are not given to buyers easily though,pedigree breeders often have tough requirements for those who want one of their kittens/puppies,and they do house visits to,they might also ban the pet from being used for breeding,so if pets were banned from sale the good breeders would be included in this,they also help to keep all sorts of diseases and illnesses out that bad breeders introduce.
in the uk,they recently brought in a new law that has a list of basic needs for pets that any animal owner found not to be doing can get into trouble for,they should do that everywhere,as having access to water,food,and vet treatment when needed etc should be
the least of what they get but many dont.
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zen_mistress
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People dont realise how much care and attention goes into looking after a pet. It is like being responsible for a child, (only not as much work). But it is a 15-20 year commitment and if you ever go on holiday or go overseas the pet will have to be considered.
I personally think that if more people neutered their pets, there would be less stray puppies and dogs who are killed in these shelters. But when I expressed this view some people thought I was "trying to deny animals their right to breed" or "trying to deny animals pleasure" so I never voiced the opinion again. I also think more awareness is needed on the commitment of pet ownership.
But I had friends who worked in animal shelters and they said it was heartbreaking watching these animals being put down all the time because there were no homes for them.
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stochastic
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People buy puppies, completely deluding themselves. They want a cute puppy, not a dog. A kitten but not a cat. North America has come to expect instant gratification with 'externalities' left completely out of mind.
The puppy is neglected, not trained well, not given enough exercise, for it is for our consumption. When it becomes a fat, ill-behaved dog, it has outlived it's value to us and we justify abandoning it, and no one wants it now. |
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Triangular_Trees
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I was relieved when my little rambo kitten became a cat.
For the first time in his short life he was able to sit still for a total of 2 minutes |
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Acdy
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| stochastic wrote: | People buy puppies, completely deluding themselves. They want a cute puppy, not a dog. A kitten but not a cat. North America has come to expect instant gratification with 'externalities' left completely out of mind.
The puppy is neglected, not trained well, not given enough exercise, for it is for our consumption. When it becomes a fat, ill-behaved dog, it has outlived it's value to us and we justify abandoning it, and no one wants it now. |
Yes.
I was watching the TV show "Living Lohan" about Lindsey Lohan's family, a reality show, and the mother told her daughter Ali (Lindsey's sister) to not get another dog, as they already have a few.
Still, Ali goes to get a puppy, and at the store asks for a "MICRO MINNI" dog of some sort.
So disgusting. Like asking for clothes of some sort.
Then this tiny dog appears, like 3 lbs, that they keep all day in what looks like a large fish tank with 3-4 other dogs, in the window. |
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Bopkasen
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: Re: 7 million dogs & cats killed per year in US shelters |
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| Acdy wrote: | This view is from someone with Aspergers.
Is this view common among Aspies and Autistics?
Is better treatment and devotion to animals more common among Aspies and Autistics than others?
FWD:
"Many leading agencies and organizations estimate that 10 million dogs/cats enter shelters each year. 10 million, each year. 7 million of them are not placed with anyone and therefore are killed. 7 million, ear year. A genocide occurs each year in the US with dogs and cats.
Americans have FAILED to take part in the endeavor of pet purchasing and ownership with care and respect.
Animal rights organizations FOOLISHLY believe that this problem (7 million a year killed) can be effectively dealt with by encouraging people to adopt dogs/cats, have them spayed and neutered, to care for them better, and so on. None of the efforts to help animals makes a significant impact on this staggering problem.
I believe the solution for the dogs and cats (for their welfare) is to NOT PERMIT THE SALE OR OWNERSHIP OF DOGS AND CATS. To end this endeavor. To end how 7 million per year are killed due to being brought to shelters.
And most dogs, especially, are neglected, even when they have homes - not exercised, imprisioned at home during the daytime (after already having slept all night), given disgustingly poor quality food, not given proper medical care, and sadly, often yelled at, hit, locked in crates, etc.
I'm shocked that this endeavor has gone unregulated by the US government, given the horrific yearly genocide.
And I'm equally shocked that rights organizations etc NEVER make any statements that this would be the best option, given what is happening.
What the rights organizations are doing to help has, in reality, an extremely minimal beneficial effect, given the numbers of animals involved.
Why do rights organizations do this, and why don't they, instead, out of pure devotion to the dogs/cats, fight for this endeavor to be stopped by making statements about this, aggressively, and continuously, and politically lobby for it?" |
The real genocide is human not animal.
Secondly, this is a recession aftershock. Deal with it! Greedy people screw the economy because they have to push their own paycheck.
Lastly, I lost my cat and I miss him. He probably dead. This is all because we can't be allow to keep cat.
Instead of playing the one sided viewpoint, you should be out feeding 100's cat with food using your hard earned money. Let see how long you can last for a change. |
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Acdy
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Vets are part of the problem too. They stay away from telling anyone how they should care for their pets, stay away from personal issues, and focus only on medicine.
Given the great proliferation of dogs/cats, with 10 million a year being put in shelters and with 75% receiving the death-penalty (7 million killed), year after year, not just this year, Vets should provide spaying/neutering for FREE. It should be required of most pets.
Instead, they charge around $75 I believe, and this is a great deterant to most people to do this.
Disgusting.
Anyway I wonder if autistic people have greater sensitivity to this issue than others. Would we not have 7 million killed a year. I think so. |
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riverotter
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As a generalization- I think that many of us like/love/care about animals more than we do about other people. I freely admit I prefer pets to people. If I wasn't so allergic (life-threatening allergy: asthma) I would work with critters full time.
As for vets spaying/neutering for free, well many municipalities offer low-cost neutering services, and humane societies and rescue groups offer the neutering as part of the adoption fee. Here in Milwaukee, at the big Humane Society, for instance cats older than a year are free and that includes already having been neutered. Also, the "trap-neuter-return" system is being used for the feral cat populations with some success in reducing feral cat populations.
I wish people would stop declawing their cats. That is mutilation and really a mean thing to do to a cat. My cat is declawed only because she already was when I got her. I can't help looking at her though and thinking how awful it must be for her, like Chinese footbinding, which is no longer done. |
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Warsie
OG Balla Representin' Da Souf Sydeeee of Chi-City
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Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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Hmm...what do you think about helping to precent unnecessary deaths of plants (not intentionally whacking down trees for the lulz or for no reason, resisting the urge to pluck whole flowers up, etc?
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