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twoshots
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 Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:12 am Post subject: The math stereotype: T/F? |
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Verdict time!
This site seems to be a host for the AS people are good at math stereotype.
What evidence is there supporting this? I have graduated from the university of Wikipedia  and I have learned that NLD and AS are similar, and people with NLD tend to be bad at math (not direct evidence yeah I know...). More importantly:
| Quote: | | This article reviews studies investigating cognitive ability and academic achievement of students with Asperger syndrome (AS) and high-functioning autism (HFA). Particular emphasis is placed on the mathematical ability of people with AS/HFA. A preliminary analysis of empirical data is presented. Findings indicate that: (1) the majority of individuals with AS/HFA have average mathematical ability; (2) the majority of individuals with AS/HFA have a significant but clinically modest math weakness; (3) some individuals with AS/HFA have mathematical giftedness. |
Mathematical ability of students with Asperger syndrome and high-functioning autism
A review of literature
Hsu-Min Chiang, Macquarie University, Australia,
Yueh-Hsien Lin, Shu-Te University, Taiwan
Has anyone else found anything interesting on this?
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Warsie
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My math is sh**.
I remember in 7-8th grade temperorarily able to do some calculation in my head that apparently surprised others, but that's it. Other than those examples I sucked at math my life.
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skahthic
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not good with math, but I do remember numbers, and do see things in them quite often, especially the numbers 4, 2, 3, 5 and 0 ( all these numbers can provide these codes--- the 350, which is a V8 engine used on many Oldsmobiles; the 455, also an engine on big block Oldsmobiles; 443, a model in the Oldsmobile line, 400, the c.i. engine used on the pre-1970 442's... these numbers are most relevant to me). But the numbers on the phone pad often make musical tones if you press them in the right sequence. Try it--- boop boop beep beep boop boop beep--- think MUSIC! You only need the right numbers. |
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Jayman
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| I have above average math abilities. Because I take math 2 years above my grade sometimes I have a little difficulty. |
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twosheds
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| I'm good at math, but bad at arithmetic. I often use a calculator even for trivial addition and subtraction, just because keying in the numbers takes several seconds less than doing the operation mentally. |
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pschristmas
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Without a calculator, I would be counting on fingers and toes. My math skills are terrible.
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Pobodys_Nerfect
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| Girls often score higher than boys at maths too. But boys are better at maths. |
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craola
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| I'm bad with maths, and for some reason I find calculators hard and for some even odder reason I find the numbers at the top of the keyboard really hard. Fingers are useful. I struggle with easy things a lot of the time, yesterday I bought 5 jazzies (round chocolate buttons with hundreds and thousands on the top) for 10p each and I couldn't work it out and found it even harder to work out how much 10 would have cost. |
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Danielismyname
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The stereotype exists for people see those who're exceptional at math, whether in a more "normal" way, or in a way like Rain Man or Jerry Newport. The cognitive pattern of those with an ASD will usually be all over the place, with strengths [above the norm] in certain areas (some have mathematics, some have verbal ability, etcetera), and weaknesses [below the norm] in others. People tend to see strengths over weaknesses for some reason or another.
People with "LFA" are usually seen as "bad" as they are weak in all areas of cognition (they may actually have better social ability than those with "HFA"). This is only seeing it from an academic perspective however, there's far more to functioning and life than school, but "NTs" place much emphasis on such.
Then you have those with "HFA"/AS who don't do well at school even though the overall IQ is there, and they're seen as lazy/an untapped resource/the usual drivel, but this point is beside the point. |
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stochastic
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| I don't particularly like math, but I am naturally excellent at it. When I was a baby I was obsessed with cards, when I was 1 I had memorized them all and by 2 I learned to add and shortly after that multiply. All throughout school I was so bored by math that was years below my level (I could do grade 8 math in grade 3) that I learned to dislike it. |
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:29 am Post subject: |
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My math skills are negligible. I can hardly do basic math. 
And yet I have a high school diploma.
Having all these math-expert Aspies on WP makes me feel inadequate. But then again, I always feel inadequate. The math streeostype is definitely justified on WP, and that ain't no lie. How many of us, though, have both Math and Language aptitudes? |
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makuranososhi
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Arithmetic and algebra are no problem at all; geometry is baffling. Never took calculus; missed 6 on the math portion of the SAT while answering every question, using only algebra. But visual arts and geometric proofs baffle me thoroughly. I read and write well, but have difficulties when speaking aloud... seems to be maddeningly inconsistent.
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Kugelschneider
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:21 am Post subject: |
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makes me feel a bit like an outcast.
My math grades are terrible throughout and I'm no good at many otherwise trivial tasks and all my math teachers up to highschool despise me and nearly all professors dispute with me and give me abysmal grades. Nevertheless, I assimilate materials faster than most and comprehend them and feed upon them (although there are good and bad sources of sustainance). There's a whole world in math few, even my betters, ever glimpsed, a world of the most extraordinary sensations and feelings, the greatest agnonies and glories! The greatest of all is the formal language, the language of power, whose meaning is its form. To speak it is to act. It has been a glorious dream of the likes of Hilbert, a dream of unobserved glory. Now, with the epidemie of computers, formal language wields real power.
To quote lieutenant Kerrigan, you have no idea how it feels. |
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| What are you talking about? |
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Kugelschneider
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| Just a little rant about my feelings. Read D.H.Lawrence's Apocalypse for a finer example. |
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