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LostInEmulation
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 Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: 'Social' activities |
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While college was really crappy a while ago, it kinda improved and stabilized on an acceptable level of crapiness. Until this week. One teacher has the glorious idea that social activities (also with former students) are a good idea and every year hosts a Petanque tournament ... this Friday. With mandatory attendance. I have not heard of this until this Monday and still have a really bad feeling about this. My class avoids me and I avoid them. I hate dealing with overly chatty and social groups of NTs. I do not want to go, but I never fake sickness or such. Faking sickness would also ruin my routines the same way how the lack of HTML class at 8am this Friday does, so it wouldn't even be an option.
I had an argument with the teacher about whether such things are at all proven effective for his stated purposes. I did not tell him that he's a very, very cruel person for disturbing my routines without giving me at least one week time to prepare (since there was an exam in his subject on Wednesday, I only could start mentally preparing after that time), but I felt that.
It makes me angry. I can not fake all is well when I'm angry and having to wake up at 7 am for 'social' BS will not make me a calm person, ie: I already know that all it'll do for me socially is to ruin my standing in the group even more.
FFS, I pay good money for EDUCATION, not for mindless 'social' garbage. Heck, I could tolerate it if it was wasting just the taxpayers' hard-earned money and not my Ma's.
Sorry, I had to get that out of my system... any last-minute help?
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slowmutant
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*snorts*
If you cannot tolerate the "social garbage" of college life, you do not belong in college. How about a wine-cellar or an abandoned warehouse? I have little patience for poeple who moan & bellyache about the "social aspect" of life. |
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LostInEmulation
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | *snorts*
If you cannot tolerate the "social garbage" of college life, you do not belong in college. How about a wine-cellar or an abandoned warehouse? I have little patience for poeple who moan & bellyache about the "social aspect" of life. |
\begin[dripping]{sarcasm}Thanks for your encouraging words!\end{sarcasm} College isn't about learning to be social but about getting an education. I do not think that I have to like the people, I just happen to spend most of the time, I am awake with.
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slowmutant
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| Maybe home-schooling is more your thing. No need to be social if it's just you and mommy. Seriously, what did you expect when you moved on campus? Solitude? |
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LostInEmulation
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| slowmutant wrote: | | Maybe home-schooling is more your thing. No need to be social if it's just you and mommy. Seriously, what did you expect when you moved on campus? Solitude? |
I can deal with the normal stuff but if something at short notice, with many people I do not know and instead of classes happens, it POs me. Add in the fact that having to build groups is really annoying for me since normally I am the one whom only the people chose, who want a target. I don't hate being social, I hate being ORDERED to be social.
Edit: unfortunately, homeschooling isn't legal in Germany. I'd so preferred it to the horror that was the first years of 'Gymnasium' (think Junior High).
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sorgenfri
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| slowmutant wrote: | | Maybe home-schooling is more your thing. No need to be social if it's just you and mommy. Seriously, what did you expect when you moved on campus? Solitude? |
What!??? Bad day??
I had the same problem in college. I took internet-courses instead, while having a job. Today I have a universitydegree. |
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megarat
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slowmutant, I think LiE makes some very valid points.
Sure, many regard college as a rite of passage more than professional/vocational development, and I fully admit that one can learn as much from the "social scene" as they can in the classroom. That said, the ostensible point of college is to obtain an undergraduate education, so you can put it on your resume/CV in hopes of obtaining employment or going on to graduate school, and have done the appropriate learning to do so.
While I would argue that dealing with social activities and abrupt changes in one's schedule are coping skills that all Apsies should focus on, I also agree that in an institute of higher learning, social activity for the sake of social activity shouldn't be mandated into the curriculum.
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LostInEmulation
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I have never heard that it was considered a rite of passage here at this college. People who want a rite of passage type education wouldn't pay much more than at state owned facilities to do it here.
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ignisfatuus
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| slowmutant wrote: | *snorts*
If you cannot tolerate the "social garbage" of college life, you do not belong in college. How about a wine-cellar or an abandoned warehouse? I have little patience for poeple who moan & bellyache about the "social aspect" of life. |
Uh, WTF? You do realise this is an Asperger's site, right? And that a key characteristic of AS is social impairment?
Forced socialization is f**** bullshit and sloppy teaching. End of.
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Space
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| the whole social aspect of college is a myth of the media. People go there to get a degree... it's hard enough going to school and staying healthy. Partying, meeting people, etc. is not what school is about. You will meet people when you work, then you will know more about who you are. |
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pschristmas
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A lawn bowling tournament? Dear G**! How long is this thing supposed to last?
I had an art history professor who made university gallery openings manditory, once. Yikes! A lot of tragically hip kids and middle-aged adults desperately trying to look like kids in black clothes and goatees standing around with their keg-o-wine in plastic glasses nodding sagely at the college-level art. I used to make a quick appearance, take a turn around the gallery, make sure she saw me and bail as quickly as possible.
There's another professor, who I like emmensely, who's parties are quiet enough that I can usually find a corner with a comfortable chair and a book when I start to feel overwhelmed by the crowd. Is there anyway you can sneak in some alone-time that way? It'll help take the edge off.
Patricia
edit: It occured to me that the comment in the first line might be offensive to some, so I altered it. Sorry, Patricia
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pschristmas
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| Space wrote: | | the whole social aspect of college is a myth of the media. People go there to get a degree... |
That's why I'm in college.
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CaptainMac
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| I'm there to get a degree too. If someone wants to force me to go to any event that's social in nature (i.e. party, this event you describe) and has no academic value I can always pull the ADA of 1990 on them. |
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slowmutant
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Life is forced socialization. By default, that's what it is. Human beings are social creatures. Sooner or later, we must face our human nature and join our fellow humans in the real world. You cannot be in your own little world all the time. Don't feel too bad, 'cause someone had to teach me this. It was a hard lesson, but looking back I'm grateful to have learned it. Yes, this is an Asperger's site, but we are human beings before we are Aspies. You must learn to deal. There is simply no alternative unless you wanna join Tarzan in the forest.
The social aspect of public education is not a myth. Where do you think the media got the idea? |
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LTP
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| slowmutant wrote: | Life is forced socialization. By default, that's what it is. Human beings are social creatures. Sooner or later, we must face our human nature and join our fellow humans in the real world. You cannot be in your own little world all the time. Don't feel too bad, 'cause someone had to teach me this. It was a hard lesson, but looking back I'm grateful to have learned it. Yes, this is an Asperger's site, but we are human beings before we are Aspies. You must learn to deal. There is simply no alternative unless you wanna join Tarzan in the forest.
The social aspect of public education is not a myth. Where do you think the media got the idea? |
I doubt more then a minority of the people attending a college are doing so for purely social reasons. People go there to learn; colleges are after all first and foremost educational institutions. |
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