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beentheredonethat
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 Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: American Airlines and their position toward autism |
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Here is a link to the details.
http://consumerist.com/tag/american-airlines/?i=5019618&t=american-eagle-kicks-autistic-child-and-his-mother-off-plane
I, personally would not fly American. There was another article on Wrong Planet by Kassiana Sibley
entitled "But we did disability training." Worth the read if it's still up.
I, for one, will not fly American Airlines again. Basically, because it looks to me like the pilot was a cowboy who didn't take nuttin from no one. Well, those are the kind of people who have accidents.
Read the article.
or google American Airlines Autism.
Disgusting.
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GoatOnFire
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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It's a he said she said sort of thing, hard to make a judgment on.
I've flown on American before and there are usually babies crying on them, my question is why did they do that this time?
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Triangular_Trees
What is right is sometimes found on the left.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| there is already a decent lenght thread about this |
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo
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Location: US, midmap
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the mother was complaining because the staff on the plane made the situation worse by responding in a harsh, unempathetic way that lacked understanding and patience thus leading up to the child's "meltdown". |
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catspurr
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Not flying AA again. I hate flying but have to do it sometimes and I have a kid that does natural kid things like get upset for having to sit there also what are parents to do now when bringing toys could be considered a threat during security checks? There are all these limitations but society has morphed into a less kid tolerable place and I don't understand where all these people think they have more rights to fly because they don't have kids when tickets aren't cheap!
Airlines also do nothing to accomodate parents with kids and they used to. Now everything is placed on the parents only oh yeah it's no wonder why things are even more chaotic.
Also for everyone else who says you hate the sound of children...well if you are on the spectrum were you on your best behavior as a kid? For some reason I doubt it. I'm sure others treated you like an embarassment from time to time. I know I was growing up and I tried really hard to keep everything inside! |
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pakled
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I haven't flown since before 9/11, but they were always the most expensive one... |
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Willard
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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It does sound as though the crew only exacerbated an already tense situation. However, at the risk of sounding like an old coot...
When I was a kid, back in the early sixties, we grew up on catchphrases like "Children are to be seen and NOT HEARD." If you were autistic in those days - you didn't know it and neither did your parents. You were just an odd kid. And if you ever allowed yourself a meltdown in public, annoying everyone around you and embarrassing your parents, you got spanked - usually right then and there in front of God and everybody, and often once again when you got home, most likely with your father's leather belt.
If you misbehaved anywhere else, when your parents weren't around (school, church, scouts, etc.) and they heard about it, the rule was "whatever punishment you get there, will be doubled at home."
My folks had a three strike rule:
First offense, a verbal reprimand.
Second offense, an immediate time out (led by your ear to the corner), followed by a grounding sentence.
Third strike, bend over, no excuses, your @ss is getting tanned.
I don't know if those were the best parenting methods in the world, but I do know that I knew how to behave in public. If I was emotionally overwhelmed, I could hide in my room when I got home, or stim quietly, or read a book, but backtalk, yelling, crying, temper tantrums of any kind in a public place were met with swift, decisive and unpleasant reactions.
Oh, but you can't treat an autistic child that way, they can't help themselves - I WAS an autistic child and I learned to control myself and behave like a civilized creature instead of a wailing ape. Did it increase my natural anxiety? I'm not sure that's possible (100% is 100%), but as long as I behaved, it wasn't an issue.
And while I'm on a rant...I knew through all of elementary school, and junior and senior high schools where my father's guns were and how to use them. They were never locked up and not once ever in my wildest dreams did it ever occur to me to get them down and shoot the bullies who accosted me on a regular basis in school (and I spent a lot of time hating those guys). Yet, every night on television, The Rifleman, The Rat Patrol, Matt Dillon just about everybody except Doctor Kildare were solving problems with a gun - and when they shot you, you died. How on earth did I know the difference between fictional entertainment and proper behavior in the real world? Why did I never bash some idiot over the head with a hammer like Daffy Duck or the Three Stooges, just to watch that little throbbing lump pop up or see the swirling birdies?
Because even if my parents had know what autism was, they would never have accepted it as an excuse for abdicating responsibility for my own social behavior.
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catspurr
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Willard, alot of parents now are fearful of disciplining their kids because of CPS. So that one moment of disciplining with spanking in public could have your child taken away.
This let the government take control of how you discipline your kids has proven to be a failure. Parents are blamed for everything now but aren't allowed to do their job without some nut job making the parent's lives hell. |
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