aspiartist
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| MrMark wrote: | I'm watching this topic, I'm not watching that one.
It's a hugh forum. We rely extensively on the membership to report problems.
You have not been reprimanded. I said, "Public accusations of trolling are never justified." You raised the issue when you said, "...it may be justified to call it Trolling." and I talked about the issue. I didn't talk about you. All I have done is talk to you, about the issues. |
The reason I had this impression is because so many "public accusations of trolling" are taking place all over the forums, and given this, I had no way of knowing it 'wasn't' justified if I also made such an accusation. If it isn't in the rules, can it be placed there so myself and others can at least know and refer to and remember this? |
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MrMark
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Well why isn't my mailbox flooded with reports from you of public accusations?
(Before you go flooding my mailbox, look at the dates of the stuff you're reporting. I don't wanna hear about stuff that happened last week. Last week would have been the time to tell me about that. And please include links. Thanks.)
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Becks
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| Whats the haven? Because cos i dont know? Why do i want to kill myself im only 10 years old? |
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MrMark
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I'm sorry, I don't believe you really want to kill yourself. People who really want to kill themselves don't usually talk about it. People who talk about it usually want someone to talk them out of it.
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matsuiny2004
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| aspiartist wrote: | | MrMark wrote: | I'm watching this topic, I'm not watching that one.
It's a hugh forum. We rely extensively on the membership to report problems.
You have not been reprimanded. I said, "Public accusations of trolling are never justified." You raised the issue when you said, "...it may be justified to call it Trolling." and I talked about the issue. I didn't talk about you. All I have done is talk to you, about the issues. |
The reason I had this impression is because so many "public accusations of trolling" are taking place all over the forums, and given this, I had no way of knowing it 'wasn't' justified if I also made such an accusation. If it isn't in the rules, can it be placed there so myself and others can at least know and refer to and remember this? |
If you would like the rules ammended PM Alex or post it in the suggestions forum
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ReGiFroFoLa
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"I don't need no haven no hell but it's alright, as long as You're under my charm"...  |
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black_legion
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HI 
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lucy1
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: Re: The Haven - a comment |
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| lau wrote: | As the forum title says: "For those times when you're feeling blue and need to get a little help from your friends. Discuss all those issues that are not covered by the other forums in the Coping in life category."
There has recently been an incident with a troll. I will not be mentioning the username,or any other usernames involved, but it will be trivial to work them out.
The troll joined a month ago and made a small number of posts (mostly here in The Haven) that suggested it (I'm going for non-gender) was female, and was being stalked in some unspecified manner. They subsequently suggested other problems, such as self-harm and suicide.
Some members treated it (the troll) quite cynically. When these members do this in future, there is a strong possibility that they will immediately be banned, The Haven is not the place for cynicism.
Most members acted in good faith, and provided support. These members are to be commended for their generosity.
A day ago, the troll "unmasked" itself as male and suggested it was a complete fraud. It was then fed copiously by the cynics, saying "I told you so", and some of the remaining group, who I think were rather disillusioned by the incident.
The posts from the cynics were pointless.
The posts from the supportive members were a pity, as it would have been much better to let the troll disappear without a trace (which may yet be arranged).
I would strongly urge the members that felt cheated by the troll to move on, and completely forget it. It is of no consequence, other than a small waste of your time, versus the good you do for other, genuine members.
True compassion costs nothing.
A troll, stealing your kindness, becomes poorer.
I do wonder what the troll felt it gained? I hope its actions have not resulted in any of our supportive members providing less generously of themselves, as the net result would then be that individuals in genuine need of help might receive less. Ultimately, maybe yet another person would commit suicide. I would have no qualms about laying that result squarely at the feet of the troll.
Finally, I see no problem with some lightness in The Haven, but never let that stray from laughing WITH people to laughing AT them.
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The above are my personal views. I do not spend much time in The Haven, as I don't feel as capable as those I see here. I certainly see its worth, as a place where members under some pressure can vent, and receive support and constructive criticism. |
I like this post -- well said.
The haven (as the name suggests) should be safe place away from the cynicism of the real world. |
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CockneyRebel
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I've posted in this forum about a real-life problem that happened to me, with a woman hater just this morning. This is the second time that I've posted in The Haven in 10 months, and I get some support, but than some member has the gall to attack me, just like last year. Different year, different attacker, but the same old story. I've finally gotten myself together, after 12 hours and got up the nerve to post in The Haven, again after 10 months, and it makes me wonder if there should still be a Haven, or not. I've noticed this happening to a lot of members who post here. I've gotten a lot of support, when I was mourning the demise of the Routemaster, in 2006. I post here with a social problem, ten months apart and I've gotten attacked, both times. It makes me wonder if I should just take another break, and come back again, in a couple of months. It's almost like I have to fit into a pigeon hole to get support.
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sinsboldly
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| CockneyRebel wrote: | | I've posted in this forum about a real-life problem that happened to me, with a woman hater just this morning. This is the second time that I've posted in The Haven in 10 months, and I get some support, but than some member has the gall to attack me, just like last year. Different year, different attacker, but the same old story. I've finally gotten myself together, after 12 hours and got up the nerve to post in The Haven, again after 10 months, and it makes me wonder if there should still be a Haven, or not. I've noticed this happening to a lot of members who post here. I've gotten a lot of support, when I was mourning the demise of the Routemaster, in 2006. I post here with a social problem, ten months apart and I've gotten attacked, both times. It makes me wonder if I should just take another break, and come back again, in a couple of months. It's almost like I have to fit into a pigeon hole to get support. |
the only think you have to do is PM a MODERATOR. The only thing ANYONE has to do is PM a MODERATOR. We are here for you, we are not mind readers nor are we reading every post on every thread everywhere.
Do yourselves a favor, if you can write a post to complain, why not write it to someone that can DO something about it.
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you only have the Haven to regain! Fight right. . . PM a MOD!!
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mosto
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| I like the haven because I can say how much I hate my life and wish to not exist and not get banned |
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Peko
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Mr Nexus
This is the 1st time I've been on this particular forum & from what I understood I think you made your point 5 times + over. I think you meant you want the "sugar coating" & not saying it as it is to stop. I too think honesty is important but I have had friends w/ emotional problems worse than being on the AS, & with them baby steps were necessary to prevent meltdowns. I go with tell the truth but if your going to tell people to suck it up (which I think you should) I think you should also offer advice on how to do such a thing.
Ex. If someone (hypothetically) has developed social phobia to the point they won't leave their house advice them to do something like step onto your porch one day (or whatever they have), than go to their mailbox to get the mail (same or different day), than go to a store once a week, call an old friend, etc.
I know I prefer things be laid out in specific, yet simple steps & would avoid someone with such a problem going to a party or bar out of town & freaking them self back into their phobia in one shot. Moving on can be difficult b/c some people have no idea how to do so.
Hello to fellow Auties/Aspies & tolerant/understanding NT's (in my personal life outside of this site your a rarity, kudos),
p.s. I'm gonna post an issue in this forum (hopefully I'll get some advice on it) & if it doesn't count as legit, I don't care I can't tell the difference. Also, this will seem pathetic but what is a troll?
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MrMark
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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troll 3 internet
Noun
a person who posts deliberately inflammatory messages on an internet discussion board
Verb
to post such a message
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/troll
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| I'm glad to be hear in a most sincere manner... |
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LiendaBalla
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I must have missed this person. I'm annoyed that some of you think it's funny. Suicide and self injury are real problems, and one needs to be careful with that topic. The words "disorder" and "victim", aren't used to make the terms look pretty, in my oppinion.
I think, if you want to post a joke, do so in the roleplay and games folder. I can now anticipate what I will recieve when I post about self injury one more time..... IF I do so anyway.
The idea that someone could put such things in a folder that people take seriously, just to play all sides as a joke....   Let's just say I'm not very amused either....  I was just thinking "How can you live with yourself?" |
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