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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: What needs to be said Reply with quote

This is how you get into a relationship. From my experience and what I have read, I gained this.

1. Confidence. This is key for everything, you don't have this you have nothing. For example, why do some women like muscle-headed idiots? Easy, they appear to be confident. If you don't have the body, you need to exhibit confidence through powerful words and actions. Dreams are a great way to look confident. To do this, stop playing the role of the victim and start respecting yourself. You have a lot, appreciate it and know that you can change. If you don't like something about yourself, don't fret and wait for someone to give you sympathy, fix it, I don't care how, DO IT!!
No more excuses. No more negative labels to describe yourself in order to make people feel sorry for you.

2. Back off. This connects to the above and to an earlier thread I posted. In order to maintain the image of confidence, you cannot I repeat CANNOT smother the person with affection, he/she (the person in question) isn't your entire life is he/she? Keep up a connection, but give them space, you'll find a little breathing room will go a long way.

3. Image. I know some of you don't want to hear this, but people do care about looks, only some people care about them more than others, but everyone does, its primal. Changing how you look can be a lot more easier than your personality and again it all connects to that magic word: confidence.

4. Patience. These things don't happen overnight, if they did, it wouldn't be healthy. I need to work on this one...

5. No magic tricks. There is no secret weapon for this, every person is different with their own prerogatives and desires and tastes. No trick will work on them other than outright charisma.

There you have it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you explain why women need the man to ask them out immediately after meeting them? One thing I need more than anything else is time to determine if a relationship is going to work before I begin it...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, its a confidence thing, they want some guy who knows what he wants beforehand.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need success with women for confidence with women.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't matter.

Success or no success, any sort of confidence helps.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

windscar15 wrote:
Again, its a confidence thing, they want some guy who knows what he wants beforehand.


Well I happen to know exactly what I want: a relationship that isn't doomed to fail. That's why I need to know what she is like before going in, rather than trying to figure it out on the way...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

windscar15 wrote:
Doesn't matter.

Success or no success, any sort of confidence helps.


There is no real confidence without success. In any area.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright then, tell where you get this success then, I'm all ears
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracula wrote:


There is no real confidence without success. In any area.



So how do you explain the recent Dimitri voice mails to the elegant Olga?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ToadOfSteel wrote:
windscar15 wrote:
Again, its a confidence thing, they want some guy who knows what he wants beforehand.


Well I happen to know exactly what I want: a relationship that isn't doomed to fail. That's why I need to know what she is like before going in, rather than trying to figure it out on the way...


So do you automatically assume going in that at some point the relationship will fail?

Don't assume things, that's a mistake I've made far too often.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

windscar15 wrote:
Alright then, tell where you get this success then, I'm all ears


Where do you think?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I want to know where, straight from you, I'm not guessing
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

windscar15 wrote:
So do you automatically assume going in that at some point the relationship will fail?

I think ToadOfSteel is saying that you shouldn't "assume" that any relationship will be SUCCESSFUL either.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't assume anything, just go with the flow. That's my best advice
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

windscar15 wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
windscar15 wrote:
Again, its a confidence thing, they want some guy who knows what he wants beforehand.


Well I happen to know exactly what I want: a relationship that isn't doomed to fail. That's why I need to know what she is like before going in, rather than trying to figure it out on the way...


So do you automatically assume going in that at some point the relationship will fail?

Don't assume things, that's a mistake I've made far too often.


Given the rather high failure rate of any relationships (marriage alone has a 50% failure rate, let alone all the other relationships that end with breakups or simply don't progress beyond the status of "one night stand"), I would rather know who I'm getting involved with beforehand than take that risk of letting a relationship fail. That's why I don't let myself become emotionally invested in anyone in particular without at least a month of somewhat regular contact. I've been burned too many times to let myself fall into that trap again...

windscar15 wrote:
Don't assume anything, just go with the flow. That's my best advice

advice that's just going to get me dumped...

Anyway, there's still my primary question at hand: Why do women need to begin a relationship immediately? Isn't "patience" one of those virtues you espoused in the OP?
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