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MrMark
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 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: Does anyone else care for the environment? |
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| mightyzebra wrote: | Doesn't anyone realise we are putting ourselves in huge danger because we are destroying the planet? At least over here in Britain people are starting to realise it, in England there have been severe floods recently and because of the environmental issues.
My best friend's mum is an ecologist and she showed me an old newspaper article (from a good newspaper) which showed that the world be in terrible danger in 2015, danger like really bad global warming and goodness knows what.
Who else on here helps the environment and thinks that everyone else should (and who believes that global warming IS NOT a myth)? |
| ja wrote: | 'man-made' global warming is the biggest crock of crap that the counter-culture has ever tried to get over on the voting consumer.
If the atmosphere were a 10,000 meter run (6.2 miles), man-made Co2 makes up only the first step-&-a-half. It's bullcrap.
Like the Soviet Union was to communisim, and Saudi Arabia is to terrorism, the green liberal is to environmentalism. |
| beau99 wrote: | | ja wrote: | 'man-made' global warming is the biggest crock of crap that the counter-culture has ever tried to get over on the voting consumer.
If the atmosphere were a 10,000 meter run (6.2 miles), man-made Co2 makes up only the first step-&-a-half. It's bullcrap.
Like the Soviet Union was to communisim, and Saudi Arabia is to terrorism, the green liberal is to environmentalism. |
Worst post ever. |
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Awesomelyglorious
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Orwell
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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What he said. Great pic, btw. That's one of my favorite pasttimes.
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z0rp
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't care for the environment really to be honest, so I'm not going to waste my time with doing things to prevent global warming and such. |
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ouinon
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I care about some of it a lot.
Beautiful old villages, some amazing cities/urban architecture/environments, peace and quiet, certain dramatic mountains, ocean waves and tides, pebbles and shells, humans and big trees, blue skies, and rain, storms, etc, etc, etc. Environment is very important to me. Would love to see the disappearance of cars.
But don't know if I do much to "care for it'.
Recycle most of glass, paper, and recyclable plastics, aswell as using almost no cosmetics or toiletries, ...
What exactly does "caring for the environment" look like?
How do I calculate my eco-care-factor? I don't drive, and I discourage my co-parent from car use at weekends except for one shopping trip, however he earns his living by driving hundreds of kilometres each week selling fossil-fueled heating appliances to factories, shops, churches and community centres etc.
On the other hand we buy very few prepacked pre-sugared, pre-anythinged foods, and only use our washing machine once a week on average. I don't go to hairdressers, or use hairspray or other aerosols.
We buy a very few organic foods; eggs, milk, and potatoes principally. I eat red meat at least twice a week.
We don't heat our house to more than 16°C in winter, but our heating is electric radiators. ( we couldn't fit solar panels, and gas isn't connected to this old part of village). I have taken a plane to 6-7 destinations in my life , but only one in the last 10 years.
Unless I were an effective campaigner for eco-care the most I could do for the environment perhaps is kill myself.
I don't vandalise, don't noise pollute, don't smoke and don't litter. We buy only one newspaper a week, the little local sunday one.
I practically never buy a pharmaceutical product. I have never planted a tree. But neither have I ever cut one down. Not directly.
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grain-and-field
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| wow, it almost looks like hes actually gona hit the poor seal with that thing....maybe its just me |
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| I care for the environment. I also wouldn't club a seal for its hide. That's an atheist's pasttime. |
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monty
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | I care for the environment. I also wouldn't club a seal for its hide. That's an atheist's pasttime. |
???
Did you excommunicate all the Christians who produce or wear fur? Did Pamela Anderson hypnotize you to confuse belief in God with belief in PETA?? Or you just don't like the Maritime Provinces?? 
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skafather84
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | I care for the environment. I also wouldn't club a seal for its hide. That's an atheist's pasttime. |
and genocide is a christian pasttime. i'll take clubbing the seal. |
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MrMark
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| skafather84 wrote: | | ...genocide is a christian pasttime. |
That's a bit of a stretch.
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skafather84
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| MrMark wrote: | | skafather84 wrote: | | ...genocide is a christian pasttime. |
That's a bit of a stretch. |
so is putting animal cruelty on all atheists.
but i have more historical proof of many instances of fascist oppressive christian regimes throughout history and a long string of various genocides.
of course that was more the rhetoric than the ideology attached to it...but hey, we're all making stupid generalizations about ideologies here, not thinking critically about the rhetoric, right? |
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MrMark
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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While there are clearly some historical cases of genocide, I think calling it a pasttime is inaccurate. The church social is a pasttime. Bingo night is a pasttime. Genocide is... something else.
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monty
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| MrMark wrote: | | skafather84 wrote: | | ...genocide is a christian pasttime. |
That's a bit of a stretch. |
More than a stretch. But I took it as sarcasm. As opposed to Slow Mutant's original statement, which seemed to indicate monomaniacal ideation. |
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latreefarmer
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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I care about it alot. the biggest thing I care about is all the misinformation in the environmental movement. It's good to have a cause, but many of them are not based in science. Global cooling, for the last ten years, is reality. Global warming, is a myth. You can take any number of years and analyze them to get the desired result. truth is, climate is much bigger than mankind can control. Global climate is cyclical, and we do not understand the forces that dictate climate, so why keep trying without evidence that's proven?
there is no more evidence for warming than there is for cooling. |
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MrMark
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| monty wrote: | | MrMark wrote: | | skafather84 wrote: | | ...genocide is a christian pasttime. |
That's a bit of a stretch. |
More than a stretch. But I took it as sarcasm. As opposed to Slow Mutant's original statement, which seemed to indicate monomaniacal ideation. |
Oh, that's right, I forgot. It's eye-for-an-eye in here.
I don't pay much attention to slowmutant. I don't know why everyone else does.
I should just stay outta PPR.
 
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