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Anemone
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 Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: Extreme Male Brain hypothesis |
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Comments? Critiques? How's my artwork? Is this diagram useful in any way? Etc.
(Note: this is about the theory, rather than whether it has anything to do with autism, but go ahead and vent about any of this if you like.) |
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MR
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well, in all 3 diagrams, being a female geek corelates with being more masculine than the average female. That fits me. Though I more see myself as less feminine. I'm not so much a girl as a human person with girl parts.
Oh yeah, and guy geeks are real men in my book.  |
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pakled
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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I notice the brain line doesn't go through any heads; the maleness doesn't go through...uh...any male attributes. But hey, why can't statistics be fun?... I'm a standard deviation outside normal life, anyways.. |
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Jollygood
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Brilliant:
The model (which I think is a bit ridiculous, as theAQ is very male-biased: liking numbers etc: how many female aspies love numbers?) would say that only the first can be true but I think the third is more likely! And butch lesbians (some are geeks too) would be up to at least the male geek level. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Yick.
I honestly think Spudnik's alternative suggestion is closer to the truth. Being a geek is a mentally androgynous state. Girl geeks get picked on for being too manly, and guy geeks get picked on for not being manly enough. Certainly nobody ever complained about geeky guys being too manly until somebody came along and defined "male thinking" as being geeky thinking (I bet it was a male geek). |
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I feel the good guy wins in the end, I have always been extremely shy and quiet all of my life, but I seem be able to meet the ladies
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I think that the psychosexual dimorphism between male and female autistics is less than between male and female entees.
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I've never been remotely convinced by this geeky=male thing. What is "maleness" anyway? Are we saying that male = sciency/mathsy? Because if we are, then it's pretty much a moot point that geeks are more male, because our culture will say that anyone who's passionate about these things is a geek. Is "maleness" supposed to be defined as machismo? Conventional masculinity? That has nothing to do with geekiness.
My girlfriend is undoubtedly a geek, and she's the girliest girl you're ever likely to meet. (She's also a lesbian, obviously.) I wonder if the issue here is that we have a rather superficial idea of what femininity is, and also that we equate femininity with femaleness. So if a woman doesn't want to take in all of the baggage re fashion, makeup, dieting, celebrities etc, we see her as less female, when in fact she just doesn't think that those things are very important. She's not more male, just less caught up in one particulat set of priorities.
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I thought I was a guy when I was younger,(female 44), because I liked rocks, wrestling other people, climbing trees, bugs, mythology, collecting rocks and fossils. I didn't know any girls who liked this stuff. As soon as I realized that boys liked sports and cars I as more comfortable being androgenious EXCEPT that I was also boy crazy and eventually wanted to "wear the right clothes to get a guy"..that was pretty female. I tried reading Cosmo and stuff but I found that stuff pretty boring, mostly I just tried to copy what my peers were wearing until about 17, when I finally gave up and just dressed the way I wanted.
I liked science but not math except for the "solving puzzles" aspect of it was a bit fun.
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| Sholf wrote: | Yick.
I honestly think Spudnik's alternative suggestion is closer to the truth. Being a geek is a mentally androgynous state. Girl geeks get picked on for being too manly, and guy geeks get picked on for not being manly enough. Certainly nobody ever complained about geeky guys being too manly until somebody came along and defined "male thinking" as being geeky thinking (I bet it was a male geek). |
^I second that. Too many movies make out geeky girls to also be pretty just not gorgeous when in real life it's a little more different and complex than that.
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matsuiny2004
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I am very skeptical of the male brain hypothesis. Actually masculinity is a social construct and can vary from place to place. In japan it is masculine to collect cute (kawii) objects
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^QFT
In parts of India, it's been the norm for men to hold hands where as in most cultures that would mean you were well...you know.
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| MissConstrue wrote: | ^QFT
In parts of India, it's been the norm for men to hold hands where as in most cultures that would mean you were well...you know. |
yes I do. . I think it is ok to say at long as you are not demeaning gay people in the process.
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