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matsuiny2004
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 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Do you have a hard time visualizng? (for people with NVLD) |
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This is for people with NLD/NVLD. I have a very hard time visualizing pictures in my head and was curious if this was the same for most people with NLD/NVLD. I only have two options since it is based off the concept that most people with aspergers have great visual ability. So even if you do not have terrible ability it still does not count. The scale of visual ability is from I can not create a picture in ym head at all to I can create a 3D environment in my head.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Do you have a hard time visualizng? (for people with NVL |
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| matsuiny2004 wrote: | | This is for people with NLD/NVLD. I have a very hard time visualizing pictures in my head and was curious if this was the same for most people with NLD/NVLD. I only have two options since it is based off the concept that most people with aspergers have great visual ability. So even if you do not have terrible ability it still does not count. The scale of visual ability is from I can not create a picture in ym head at all to I can create a 3D environment in my head. |
I suppose I'm off message here, but it became clear to me some years ago, that an evident difference between NVLDs and autistics, is this ability to envision!
I use the term advisedly. My opportunity to observe is limited, but from what I've seen, NVLDs have difficulty, not only with mental visualising, but also with even having the concept that others may not share their assured analysis. I'm sure it's a matter of degree (as with the dominance of one's autism) and it's a problem for autism experts (who also lack the breadth of vision of autistics) but my limited experience indicates that NVLDs (I don't know enough about your other category to comment; are they related?) get fixated on their own interpretation of events, and subsequently have difficulty accepting others?
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matsuiny2004
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Do you have a hard time visualizng?(for people with NVLD |
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| gwynfryn wrote: | | matsuiny2004 wrote: | | This is for people with NLD/NVLD. I have a very hard time visualizing pictures in my head and was curious if this was the same for most people with NLD/NVLD. I only have two options since it is based off the concept that most people with aspergers have great visual ability. So even if you do not have terrible ability it still does not count. The scale of visual ability is from I can not create a picture in ym head at all to I can create a 3D environment in my head. |
I suppose I'm off message here, but it became clear to me some years ago, that an evident difference between NVLDs and autistics, is this ability to envision!
I use the term advisedly. My opportunity to observe is limited, but from what I've seen, NVLDs have difficulty, not only with mental visualising, but also with even having the concept that others may not share their assured analysis. I'm sure it's a matter of degree (as with the dominance of one's autism) and it's a problem for autism experts (who also lack the breadth of vision of autistics) but my limited experience indicates that NVLDs (I don't know enough about your other category to comment; are they related?) get fixated on their own interpretation of events, and subsequently have difficulty accepting others?
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I do no share your experience. I think were are more of a varaition of aspergers. We have alot of simmilarities actually 80% simmilarity, but there are still some differences and I am trying to find what those are.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I can visualize fairly well (a lot of work in 3d art can do that), but making sense of it sometimes, there's the rub... |
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matsuiny2004
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| pakled wrote: | | I can visualize fairly well (a lot of work in 3d art can do that), but making sense of it sometimes, there's the rub... |
you have NVLD 
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| I have NLD, and I have great difficulty with visualization. It takes a lot of effort, and any images I conjure up are vague and ephemeral. They're more like indistinct impressions than pictures, and they slip away quickly. Part of the problem is that my visual memory is really impaired, so it is difficult for me to even remember what things look like (outside of verbal descriptions), let alone conjure up images of them in my mind. I have an easier time though if I try to focus on a portion of an image, like what someone's hair looks like, and it also helps if I additionally focus on a tactile sensation, like the feel of my dog's fur if he is the one I am trying to picture. |
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trent
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If you can't visualize than how can you fantasize about anything?!  |
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matsuiny2004
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| LostInSpace wrote: | | I have NLD, and I have great difficulty with visualization. It takes a lot of effort, and any images I conjure up are vague and ephemeral. They're more like indistinct impressions than pictures, and they slip away quickly. Part of the problem is that my visual memory is really impaired, so it is difficult for me to even remember what things look like (outside of verbal descriptions), let alone conjure up images of them in my mind. I have an easier time though if I try to focus on a portion of an image, like what someone's hair looks like, and it also helps if I additionally focus on a tactile sensation, like the feel of my dog's fur if he is the one I am trying to picture. |
I find associating words with images helpful
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| trent wrote: | | If you can't visualize than how can you fantasize about anything?! |
I daydream all the time- I just don't need mental imagery to do it. My daydreams are mostly in words accompanied by some vague images. |
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I find associating words with images helpful |
I translate pictures into words when I'm trying to memorize something (like a route), but thinking of the words don't help me visualize the images. Or is that not what you meant? |
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I have a hard time visualizing; most of the images I get in my head are fuzzy, with an overlay of abstract concepts and emotions.
That doesn't stop me from daydreaming though 
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| I don't know what NLD or NLVD is but I can visualize great sometimes. I giggle when I do it awsomely and I can see everything so clearly. It's like there is a screen right infront of me. |
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| I notice this problem most when trying to listen to someone describe something, especially over the phone, and they want me to see what they are describing. I get really infuriated because I absolutely can't and have to get off the phone pretty quickly afterward. I need to see something in order to understand what it is or in any way interpret it. As with my art ability, I'm limited to those things I can visually see as a means of interpretation and likewise am completely lacking in imagination. |
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