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Snowy Owl
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 Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: Have you ever had any form of delusion or psychosis? |
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I know that one of the main differences between someone on the spectrum and a schizophrenic is that in the former their is an absence of delusions and hallucinations, but could you still have one and still be on the spectrum?
I had an incident about three years ago when I was under a lot of stress. Basically, I was looking at a very abstract picture with my girlfriend. I asked her how many faces she could see and she said 4 or 5. I saw 4 or 5 off a glance and then began to allow my mind to form abstract faces at a fast rate. I started counting them past 15 or so and suddenly, it was like my subconscious sort of took over and I began to project faces everywhere! I saw them on the bricks next to the picture, and in the trees and basically everything all around! It freaked me out and at the time I thought I had gone insane, but it was only momentarily and shortly after I returned to my normal perception. Has anyone else experienced this? Would this be considered a delusion and hallucination or just an over active imagination? Every other time that I imagined something in the past it was not projected onto my outer sight, except in this case. I had a brief few moments where I got the spooks and started to think in superstitious ways to explain it, but quickly, as in a few minutes later, convinced myself that this was all in my head. Would this mean that I have some form of psychosis from this one incident or what?
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Magicfly
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| I've only had that happen under the influence of magic mushrooms and LSD, otherwise, no, never. |
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Well I did take a lot of LSD and mushrooms years before, so maybe this was a genuine flashback...
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| A couple of years ago, I think I was in some kind of psychotic episode, because my doctor put me on Risperdal. I can't remember any specific details about it; just that I thought weird things and had weird emotions. |
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Angnix
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I'm Bipolar and get really Grandiose and Paranoid especially during an episode, but I have very mild delusions all the time apparantly... but I don't hallucinate. I'm still trying to figure out myself if I'm really on the Autism spectrum, or mildly on the schizo spectrum, for sure Bipolar, but I at least seem more than that.
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| i know this is totally irrelevant but thats a kool chakra picture |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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donkey
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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dude when you talk of magic mushrooms and lsd...this may be your problem.
i can share the seeing more faces than others within the picture, as an AS feature, but outside it?
that aint AS. |
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krex
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I have had a few "psychotic breaks" when under a lot of stress...(impending homelessness and losing a job). It can be a part of AS. One time I had the thought that my mother had put a severed hand under my pillow. I knew it was a crazy thought but was afraid to look. I think it may have been triggered by watching a movie where someone was trying to drive some insane with a severed hand....I often felt like my mom was trying to drive me insane because she was constantly "picking on me"...(we didn't know about AS).
After losing a job in the middle of MN winter and fearing eviction, I imagined I had a gas leak in the apartment as well as several other bizarre thoughts. I was practically comatose most of that week....just shut down. It only lasted a few weeks all together but it was very scary.
I also thought I was from another planet for most of my life but I don't think that was a delusion 
The faces thing...I have been seeing faces in "things" since I was a little kid and used to draw abstract designs and turn them into faces. It isn't the same as actually "seeing a face in a tree and thinking it's a real person", it's just noticing pattern that is pretty common. Acid does seem to exacerbate this but it is more like training the mind to tune into something that others ignore.
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I'm not sure I get what you are trying to say. Is it that my talking about it (LSD & mush) is the problem or that my actual use of it could have contributed to it? I already stated that this could be a flashback, so I'm kind of confused.
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The faces thing...I have been seeing faces in "things" since I was a little kid and used to draw abstract designs and turn them into faces. It isn't the same as actually "seeing a face in a tree and thinking it's a real person", it's just noticing pattern that is pretty common. |
It's not that when I saw the faces I thought they were real people. It was just after the incident that my mind went through a process of attempting to explain it. In the course of this one of the notions was that it was supernatural. Like I said, that notion was quickly dispelled.
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unityemissions, that's not really a hallucination. You weren't seeing things that weren't there, you were just imposing a meaning on them. I mean, you were trying to recognize faces in an abstract painting, why would you be surprised when that extended beyond the picture's frame?
Imposing a face on visual data is one of the brain's job, and it's good at it. It rejects all the less convincing ones normally, but if people suspend that then they crop up everywhere (the moon, cliffs, a vase in silhouette)
This is all assuming that the faces weren't talking, moving or composed of features that diapered. Then you can legitimately worry.
Or if you ever permanently lose the ability to reject faces. The opposite of face blindness, I suppose. It would make life more interesting. Never be lonely etc. |
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No.
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donkey
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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im saying , that in my experience and opinion as an individual with AS that what you describe is unrelated to AS and may be due to other factors.
sorry for the confusion |
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| Since wrote: | | unityemissions, that's not really a hallucination. You weren't seeing things that weren't there, you were just imposing a meaning on them. |
Thank you. I needed that.
| Since wrote: | | I mean, you were trying to recognize faces in an abstract painting, why would you be surprised when that extended beyond the picture's frame? |
I guess because it never happened before.
After this I started to get something similar, but only in trees. It's like each tree that I look at reminds me in some way of a personality that I interact with, whether it be a student, friend, parent, or some random guy that I observe. I think this is the same in that I am just imposing meaning. It's not like I see faces in trees anymore, I just seem to make unusual connections.
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