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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a conspiracy theory that the US is actually still owned by the British Crown through the
Virginia Company (isn't the president related to the royal family ? )

Perhaps the authorities here in Britain are aware of this secret and they didn't see a reason to mark July 4th as a special day. Wink

We have other days of celebrations in these islands for the patron saints of each country.St George for England,St Andrew for Scotland,St David for Wales and last but definitely not least St Patrick for Ireland. (Although you can bet that apart from St Patrick's Day on Mar 17 the
other days are relatively low key and not everyone can even remember offhand what the dates
are ! )

A Happy 4th of July Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certain kinds of fireworks are illegal here, as I imagine it is in other places. But that doesn't stop people from setting them off.

Those are the really pretty ones too. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL

Not to sound offensive but I would think those who were patriotic to their country Britain, wouldn't be that pleased with celebrating a day when Great Britain lost to America in the Revolutionary War.

Now I've heard of Guy Fawkes Day!!




Wasn't that also in the movie V For Vendetta?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the idea was Britain celebrating because, in retrospect, they are glad to have gotten rid of us. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MissConstrue wrote:
LOL

Not to sound offensive but I would think those who were patriotic to their country Britain, wouldn't be that pleased with celebrating a day when Great Britain lost to America in the Revolutionary War.

Now I've heard of Guy Fawkes Day!!




Wasn't that also in the movie V For Vendetta?


What makes you think they lost? 4/7/1776 was not the end of the war, by any means. The actual war and it's battles went on until 1791 at least, then the French got involved and bogged them down until 1815. The Boston Tea Party was post Independence Day, and was still considered one of the major skirmishes with the Redcoats. In the end, Benjamin Franklin signed the declaration with King George III, sometime after 1780. British and French territories still remained up until the Civil War, but were handed over and the US gained full Independence then.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy 4th American Aspies!

Here in Portland, Oaks Park has a display set for 9 PM tonight
and Fort Vancouver does theirs at 10 PM, simulcast on TV.

I'll be watching the Ft. Vancouver fireworks from Marine Drive in Portland.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be sitting on my porch watching the neighbors set off illegal fireworks. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes, V for Vendetta. You really must get the illustrated novel, it's quite good.

As for Guy Fawkes, he tried to blow up Parliment, you know ....

We don't celebrate an Independence Day as such, because we've always been independent. (With the exception of the Roman occupation, which inspired the pagan Bodacia rebellion which was put down rather quickly.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ever seen a guy's face blown apart by an M80?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No...what does it look like?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Apprentice in my Local blew up his left hand with a large firecracker in July of last year. He was holding it in his hand after drinking booze and it had a quick fuse. I was visiting him in the Hospital when the Surgeon tasked with ensuring that he had a good stump for the prosthesis brought in the picture that had been taken in the Emergency Room two nights before. It was awful looking and caused the young man ( who had been in the Marines ) to realize what he'd lost and broke down in tears. I felt awful for him, he would have made a good Electrician. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember, remember the 5th of November...Wink

the Peace of Paris ended the war, in 1783 (or that's what they taught us in school...Wink

Don't think that the British would celebrate it, any more than Canada day, or whatever the Oz-folk got in the early 1900s...Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Social_Fantom wrote:
I'll be sitting on my porch watching the neighbors set off illegal fireworks. Laughing


Funny enough, the neighbors across from my house
are setting off obviously illegal fireworks from Washington State.

In Portland, The Waterfront Blues Festival
has a display set for 8 PM, which is in roughly 25 minutes.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pakled wrote:
Remember, remember the 5th of November...Wink

the Peace of Paris ended the war, in 1783 (or that's what they taught us in school...Wink

Don't think that the British would celebrate it, any more than Canada day, or whatever the Oz-folk got in the early 1900s...Wink


The people of Australia celebrate their national day on Jan 26. Drives the abos crazy, seeing as they think they were invaded in 1788. Thing is, if it wasn't the Brits, the Portuguese, Dutch, Spanish or Indonesians would have colonized sooner or later, and the abos would have been wiped out by 1820 at the latest. A country is what you make of it, and a civilization is founded on the strengths of the people that make that country, and therefore, whatever national day people celebrate, it comes down to the struggles of the fore-fathers to make whatever they could in adversity.

Down here in Gehenna, every day is a national day....
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bradleigh wrote:
Wasnt 4th July day the day America became independent, I think only America would celibrate it, like you guys don't celibrate ANZAC day, but a town in France does.

Nope. July 4th is the day that the Declaration of Independence was Approved by the continental congress. we got our independence on september 3rd 1783
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