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Mw99
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 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: Scathing comment about aspies posted on another forum |
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In a thread about people with Asperger's Syndrome, someone wrote:
I have autistic relatives and I, still not decided if for good or for ill, share a lot of Asperger's traits. I used to frequent WrongPlanet's forums, but I didn't connect with most of the posts nor with the posters. Some "aspies" (I dislike the term) are very emotional and irrational. Few of them, strangely enough, are extroverts. An autistic extrovert is a like a blind guy trying to play a videogame.
What do you think about the emotional and irrational part? |
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Tracker
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It is uhh, true?
Just because we dont have many social skills doesnt mean we dont have emotions. Emotions get the better of everyone at times, autistics and NT alike.
He didnt say all autistic people are emotional wrecks, he only said some people. |
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pakled
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| it's a spectrum, not a wavelength. Some of fit the 'stereotype', many don't. |
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nontrivial
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If he's going on what he read on WP, his experience is probably a bit skewed. A lot of people post here when they're looking for help or advice, or when they're just fed up with the challenges of being on the spectrum. People are going to sound emotional, maybe even irrational, when they're in that situation. Aspies have plenty of endearing traits as well, but we don't usually seek help for those.  |
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SapphoWoman
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Emotions aren't inherently "bad." Don't know what this guy's problem is. |
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Mrhat
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd also venture to guess that many people on WP are not autistic, they are not representative of aspies as a whole. Most aspies have difficult time with employment, many of them are on welfare/disability or are in and out of the system. |
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Pobodys_Nerfect
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| He's just realising he's an NT nerd. |
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Liverbird
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Mrhat wrote: | | I'd also venture to guess that many people on WP are not autistic, they are not representative of aspies as a whole. Most aspies have difficult time with employment, many of them are on welfare/disability or are in and out of the system. |
This is a sweeping generalisation that is just not true! There are many functioning AS people out there. Some of us do it better than others. Some of us do it better at different times than others. That's why it's a spectrum. That's why it's so hard to diagnose. That's why NT people continue to have these completely inane ideas about what AS looks like.
Thanks for perpetuating another useless stereotype.
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Aspinator
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: Comment |
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| The poster's comment on extroverted aspies is silly. There are extroverted and introverted aspies just like any other group. That comment shows a lack of awareness of basic psychology. |
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sgrannel
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Some posters are NT, and they say so.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Scathing comment about aspies posted on another forum |
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| Mw99 wrote: | In a thread about people with Asperger's Syndrome, someone wrote:
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What do you think about the emotional and irrational part? |
I would say true as well. Most of the time I am very logical and not emotional. When I have shutdowns, typically I get very emotional (in my head) and irrational when it comes to dealing with those emotions.
You'll see posts here that are representative of similar irrational responses when dealing with emotions (usually depression). Things like "I have it so bad - nobody else has it as bad as me." Or "everybody hates me because I'm autistic." |
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cyberscan
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: Not True - at Least Not for Me |
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| Mrhat wrote: | | I'd also venture to guess that many people on WP are not autistic, they are not representative of aspies as a whole. Most aspies have difficult time with employment, many of them are on welfare/disability or are in and out of the system. |
I am not Aspie, but rather what was once called Kanner's autistic. While I live at home with my mom, I contribute to expenses, hold down a job and can act very NT-like much of the time. I have not been "in the system" as far as receiving disability goes.
Except for the fact that I live with my parents, my life is like many NT's. I am still autistic, and if one were to observe me for about 24 hours without me knowing, they will surely know that.
However, I am a very rational person who has been successful at fixing many problems (mechanical, electronic, and business) others have not. I have emotions like the NT's but I display very few besides anger and frustration. I am still very autistic and yet very social. Most of my employers say that i am a very good worker.
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Danielismyname
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Mrhat is actually correct with the diagnosed population as a whole, whether Asperger's, Autism, or PDD-NOS. I can provide lovely statistics that are accurate. Taking his statement personally just shows that you're being emotional over such, rather than detaching yourself from the context of subjectivity (the latter part of his/her statement that is; it's impossible to tell if someone is Autistic or not by forum posts, and WP isn't a representation of anything at first glance).
However, I'm not of the opinion that one's worth as a human is based on whether they can earn money, get a degree, and/or being able to interact with people. This is superficial, and based on preconceived notions that "Autistic" people want to be "normal" and do "normal" things; most don't care about society and what said society wants of them to be seen as "non-retarded", and that makes me laugh (by appearances, of course). |
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iceb
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:40 am Post subject: Re: Scathing comment about aspies posted on another forum |
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| Quoted by Mw99 who wrote: | | An autistic extrovert is a like a blind guy trying to play a videogame. |
And just think of the kudos when the blind guy succeeds 
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Hector
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:55 am Post subject: Re: Scathing comment about aspies posted on another forum |
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| Mw99 wrote: | | What do you think about the emotional and irrational part? |
It seems perfectly sound, I've seen people here make leaps in logic that some may find more irritating than others. |
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