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Aspinator
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 Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: Link Between AS and Gayness? |
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| I find this puzzling. Here's my hypothesis; it's a given that people with AS have different wiring in their brains and see things differently from NTs. You could also assume homosexual people's brains are also wired differently, hence their preferences that go against societal norms. Although I have a hetrosexual orientation I have been "approached" by gay people. I wonder if this is because our brains are wired similarly and a gay person picks up on this different wiredness? I would love to hear some different opinions on this. |
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No_YOU_get_over_it
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Na, I think both groups are already accustomed to being "different" in a major way, and that the commonalities are more from socialisation than from anything organic. If both were in the majority ... well it's a stereotype, but gay males I've known have been VERY helpful in my process of understanding how to dress. So I wanted to blurt out that if we were both in the majority (meaning AS >50% and gay >%50) then we ASers would dress a lot better.
What I was REALLY trying to get at was that if neither group were a minority, I don't think there would be any overlap more than you'd expect from the general population.
That's my 2 c, anyway.
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Brandon-J
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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No there isn't a link in my opinion. Yes AS brains are wiring differently from what we see reality. While NT gay people brains are wired normally but of the oppositet sex. Like guys have more feminine emotions that a women would have. Most gay people are known to be very talkative like women so there must not be a link  |
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NeantHumain
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Aspie males and gay males may both be wired differently from the average male, but it's not the same difference. These gay people probably hit on you because you were there (it's kind of like a guy hitting on a bunch of women to play the numbers). |
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Kauf039
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | These gay people probably hit on you because you were there (it's kind of like a guy hitting on a bunch of women to play the numbers). |
He probably thought that you would be less likely to break his nose too...
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agmoie
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yes gay males and Aspies have brains wired differently-from each other.
Aspies have a dominant left male brain and gay males have a dominant right female brain,female aspies have a dominant left/male brain and are often bi or lesbian.
NT hetero non Aspergers males have more similarities in brain wiring with gay males than we do.
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n4mwd
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Link Between AS and Gayness? |
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| Aspinator wrote: | | I find this puzzling. ... Although I have a hetrosexual orientation I have been "approached" by gay people. ... |
No there is no link. The reality is that a lot of aspies are actually asexual and not heterosexual. Before I knew that a person could have asexuality as an orientation, I used to identify myself as being straight because I knew I wasn't gay and I didn't know there was a third alternative.
Here is why you are being approached by gays. Gays have this sense they call "gaydar". Basically, they look at your eyes when a cute girl passes you. If you make eye contact with her, then they assume you are straight and do not attempt t contact you. If you don't make eye contact, then they assume you are gay. The problem is that gaydar fails when you add in asexuality because its a false trigger.
So if you are truly heterosexual, you should be thinking about having sex with women every 9 seconds or so. If not, and if you are an aspie, then you have a really good chance of being asexual. |
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jayssite
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Link Between AS and Gayness? |
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| n4mwd wrote: | | So if you are truly heterosexual, you should be thinking about having sex with women every 9 seconds or so. If not, and if you are an aspie, then you have a really good chance of being asexual. |
That's not true at all.
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/thinksex.asp |
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n4mwd
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Link Between AS and Gayness? |
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| jayssite wrote: | | n4mwd wrote: | | So if you are truly heterosexual, you should be thinking about having sex with women every 9 seconds or so. If not, and if you are an aspie, then you have a really good chance of being asexual. |
That's not true at all.
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/thinksex.asp |
Its true for me. |
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2ukenkerl
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Link Between AS and Gayness? |
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| n4mwd wrote: | | Aspinator wrote: | | I find this puzzling. ... Although I have a hetrosexual orientation I have been "approached" by gay people. ... |
No there is no link. The reality is that a lot of aspies are actually asexual and not heterosexual. Before I knew that a person could have asexuality as an orientation, I used to identify myself as being straight because I knew I wasn't gay and I didn't know there was a third alternative.
Here is why you are being approached by gays. Gays have this sense they call "gaydar". Basically, they look at your eyes when a cute girl passes you. If you make eye contact with her, then they assume you are straight and do not attempt t contact you. If you don't make eye contact, then they assume you are gay. The problem is that gaydar fails when you add in asexuality because its a false trigger.
So if you are truly heterosexual, you should be thinking about having sex with women every 9 seconds or so. If not, and if you are an aspie, then you have a really good chance of being asexual. |
So you are saying that nearly every single AS person is GAY, simply because they don't think about sex with a woman every 9 seconds!?!?!? HEY, I guess that means almost no AS person is gay either, because they don't dream about sex with a man every 9 seconds either.
HEY, my body is on AUTOPILOT! If I see a flash of a woman that is too pretty and/or maybe a little too naked, I get proof that I am just NOT gay. EVEN if I don't think about it! Funny, that NEVER happens with a similar flash of a man.
As for looking in the eyes? FUNNY, I often avoid them. Then again, many women APPRECIATE guys that look them in the eyes, because MOST STRAIGHT GUYS DON'T! And I try to hide my desire, etc... By the time the average woman sees me, I may have looked her over 3 times. It AGAIN is almost automatic.
As for AS and homosexuality being the same? Homosexuals sometimes ACT autistic, often have weird ways to move, think, etc... They like to think that, as a group, they are smart and articulate. Frankly, I doubt that. I have seen MANY that are quite the opposite.
On one of the planes, coming back, one man let his wrists flop almost as if he was dead, moved in a slightly odd way, and his voice had an almost gay sound to it. I have no doubt he was gay. I, by contrast, couldn't move my wrists like that if I tried, wouldn't try, DON'T move in such a way and, though I sound young, certainly never had such affectations. WHO KNOWS about connections. BUT, to say they are THAT closely related, I DOUBT IT!
I WILL say one thing. Many homosexuals DO appear to lack any sort of fashion, etc... They have the WIERDEST ideas and, frankly, when was the last time you saw them IN PUBLIC.
If you doubt the veracity of my post, PLEASE see the doodah parade! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doo_Dah_Parade |
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Kauf039
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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*is not sure how to take the previous post*
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Aurore
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'm Aspie and consider myself a lesbian but I don't think my sexuality and autism are connected at all.
Just to make it clear, not all gay guys and girls are crazy thinkers like some have suggested here. Most act basically just like typical people, except they happen to have homosexual attractions. But in those cases you usually don't know they're gay, so only the flamboyant idiots out there get recognized for their sexuality. That's how the stereotype perpetuates.
But I think gays are more sympathetic to Aspies because they know what it's like to be an outsider.
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makuranososhi
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Link Between AS and Gayness? |
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| n4mwd wrote: | | jayssite wrote: | | n4mwd wrote: | | So if you are truly heterosexual, you should be thinking about having sex with women every 9 seconds or so. If not, and if you are an aspie, then you have a really good chance of being asexual. |
That's not true at all.
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/thinksex.asp |
Its true for me. |
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jayssite
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: Link Between AS and Gayness? |
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| n4mwd wrote: | | jayssite wrote: | | n4mwd wrote: | | So if you are truly heterosexual, you should be thinking about having sex with women every 9 seconds or so. If not, and if you are an aspie, then you have a really good chance of being asexual. |
That's not true at all.
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/thinksex.asp |
Its true for me. |
Every nine seconds? Even as an average, that's extremely excessive. I have a really hard time believing that you think about sexual intercourse that obsessively. How are you able to function? If what you say is true, then it seems like the entirety of your existence must revolve around wanting to "get laid", as if that's the sole focus of your consciousness every single minute of every single hour of every single day of your life. |
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malithion2
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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My best friend is gay and me and him get along great, I do think their mind might be wired different though: he's explained in detail on how and why he's gay and he's been that way since birth. So i kinda agree but I wouldn't say he has AS because he finds me just as odd.
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