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makuranososhi
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Need to vent... Reply with quote

Until near the end of this past year, I had been engaged for three years. Our relationship blossomed quickly, but we chose to maintain a lengthy engagement to counter-balance... in part because I had been single for some time prior, and she was just coming out of another relationship. (DANGER Will Robinson!) During that time, we started a new business together with one of my parents and moved to a small town. Just prior to the move (2+ years ago), we had a huge blowout fight (which happened to be on the day my grandmother died) and she shut down talking to me. I sent messages, letting her know that I was sorry for blowing up (or, as I understand it now, melting down from the change and shock) and that I would miss her while I was gone for the funeral and thought things were tense but we were still together. A little over a week after returning, we meet and spend some time together over a couple days... things improved. I asked if anything had happened during the interim; I know myself, and know that I can generally get over something if it is admitted honestly. "Nothing happened." - and I accepted it at first. But things were peculiar; even if I don't know what is going on, I can still sense the dischord. Her tale changed from nothing, to a drunken make-out session, on to a full explanation. I was doubly crushed, because the trust was damaged... yet I continued on, because I loved this woman and had made a commitment to her and to our store. We move, and for a time things are better before degenerating into frequent conflict, not being able to communicate with her or understand why she was upset, only to learn that I wasn't doing the spontaneous things she felt should be happening in our relationship. (Looking back now, that makes sense... then, I just felt like a useless idiot) She would become sullen, I would withdraw, something would happen and I would explode without any seeming rhyme or reason (again, in retrospect these would occur when plans would suddenly change, or I would be accosted for something I wasn't aware of, etc) and then we would spiral apart until we would finally find a moment to talk and became immersed in each other again. The final straw came when we travelled for her brother's wedding... and at this point I should disclaim that there was (and likely remains) animosity between her mother and I for many reasons. However, the entire trip was a disaster: I was sick, stressed and shaking, needed support and apparently wasn't communicating it, just completely ashamble. Her mother took every opportunity to dismiss and demean me, yet when I tried to stay at the hotel to avoid the stress I was accosted for not getting involved. I tried talking to my then-fiance about the problem, who then took it upon herself to talk to her mom about it. Despite her assurances, she did an about-face and took her mother's side of the entire issue. I lost it for a few hours, but pushed myself to try and meet up with them later that night. Was shunned by everyone save her brother, which was an odd experience. Three weeks later, she informed me she was breaking up with me, moving back and leaving the store. As I expected... there was already someone else (though denied at the time, the evidence is there) and moved right into another relationship. There are small moments when I miss her, but the objective analysis afterwards has lessened the sadness. Now I am just angry - while I love the store and the opportunity, it came at the cost of the home that I'd had for some years and leaving the support of the few friends and activities that I had in order to make the move. That, in my opinion, contributed greatly to the chaos and devastation in our relationship - prior to 4 months ago, I knew next to nothing about ASDs beyond my experience in teaching. Now it makes sense. Perhaps I am angry that she left before the cause was even found out... I know I'm angry about her lies and deceptions (which go beyond the one instance), and resent her greatly - she still hasn't taken the time to move the large remainder of her belongings from our storage facility. Over the months, I've grown to despise the person she became; I still have love for the woman I met and fell for... now I just want her gone. The constant antagonism of presence, seeing things that remind me of her, her handwriting, etc, leaves me almost permanently on the brink of breakdown. Trying to move it myself just makes it worse for me. There is so much here that was bought with her use as the intent and now I'm left with the burden - physically, emotionally, and fiscally.

Things are so much better now... at the moment, I have an amazing friendship with an old friend (who is far away, unfortunately) which is romantic, direct and supportive. She does her best to accept my quirks, and I try to return the favor. It is a healthy place right now... much better than where I have been, in terms of my own well-being. But when I make a commitment... it doesn't just break.

If anyone read this far... thanks. I just needed to pour out a little before it overboiled.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get rid of any momentos (unless they are needed for settlement of assets) and burn pictures.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, thank whoever or whatever you thank that you didn't marry her. Even so, getting past her may require drastic measures. Been there. I feel your pain man. Thanks for venting!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for reading/listening. Don't have any outlets at this point.

Disposal of property is a sticky situation, and too convoluted to explain in full. I have gotten rid of the things from the house; it is at the store and the storage that her things remain at issue.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that was something to vent about. Shocked

Hope things go well with the person you're talking to. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flailure wrote:
Man, thank whoever or whatever you thank that you didn't marry her. Even so, getting past her may require drastic measures. Been there. I feel your pain man. Thanks for venting!


I am thankful, too... As time passes and I learn more about AS, the more I understand the nature of our problems. That said, it still would not have overcome her issues with honesty, maturity (which is DAMN funny coming from me), materialism, and lack of commitment. Things would not have worked, and I would be in worse shape than I am now. Now I just want her to be gone, to not have to deal with the drain on me on a daily basis.

The friend is wonderful treasure and delight; we've known each other for years and been there through each other's abruptly terminated engagements, and she is about the only person I can sustain a conversation with on the phone. She is about as opposite to me as can be (on the AQ survey, she scores a 6), but understands that problems I can have talking and understanding, and when I need to be alone a lot of the time. Were we closer... who knows. But I will be travelling to see her in the coming months. That is something to look forward to.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can contact her, offer the opportunity to get her things. Take your things out and move them to another storage area. Leave the key somewhere she can get it (but nobody else) and invite her to go and get her things. If she doesn't after 6 months, get the key back and pawn the lot. Whatever you can't sell, hire a skip (a really big bin, whatever you guys over there call them), take them, destroy them in as many ways as you can imagine, destroy them some more, then throw them in the skip, jump in and jump on them. Seeing it all go out the door is the most therapeutic thing you can do for yourself.

My gf's abusive father left behind a lot of things, and before she threw them out, she broke them, threw them on the ground and jumped all over them. She said nothing made her feel better before or since.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own the storage unit - trust me, I've considered a lot of options... just even looking at it right now is difficult. But I'm not going to give in to petty responses, and there are additional considerations considering the business involvement. Thank you, though... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still on my mind today... been listening to music to help:





When we were together, I was blown away...
Just like paper from a fan.
But you would act like I was just a kid...
Like we were never gonna last.

Now I've got someone who cares for me -
He wrote my name in silver sands.
I think you know you've lost the love of your life,
(and you said) I was the best you've ever had.

Because I'm in demand.

You're thinking of the way you shoulda held my hand,
And all the times you said you didn't understand...
You never had our love written in your plans -
But now I'm in demand.

Don't ever think you saw the best in me -
Theres a side you'll never know.
'Cos love and loving are two different things;
Set your sights far too low.

Now I've got someone who cares for me -
He wrote my name in silver sands.
I think you know you've lost the love of your life,
(and you said) I was the best you've ever had.

Because I'm in demand.

You're thinking of the way you shoulda held my hand,
And all the times you said you didn't understand...
You never had our love written in your plans -
But now I'm in demand.

You're thinking of the way you shoulda held my hand,
And all the times you said you didn't understand...
You never had our love written in your plans -
But now I'm in demand.

Its only when I fall asleep
I see that winning smile...
When my dreams just move along -
You've lost the race by miles!

(Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah)

Because I'm in demand.

You're thinking of the way you shoulda held my hand,
And all the times you said you didn't understand...
You never had our love written in your plans -
But now I'm in demand.

You know I'm in demand...
You see I'm in demand...
You know I'm in demand...
You never had our love written in your plans...

You know I'm in demand...
You see I'm in demand...
You need me in demand...
You want me in demand...


Music, the graceful form of dance, a beautiful woman and Alan Rickman - what more does one need? Question The maelstrom won't subside today, yet I still find positives with each moment. With enough time and duct tape, all things are possible.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

makuranososhi wrote:
Still on my mind today... been listening to music to help:

As my connection is dial-up, I cannot view online videos. However, listening to the particular music I like is useful, cathartic tool-sometimes for the lyrics, but more often just for the song's sound/feel (beat, melody, instrumentation, etc.).
makuranososhi wrote:
Music, the graceful form of dance, a beautiful woman and Alan Rickman - what more does one need? :?: The maelstrom won't subside today, yet I still find positives with each moment. With enough time and duct tape, all things are possible.

Alan Rickman-not sure how that relates (as I can't watch the video), but I remember him & Juliet Stevenson in "Truly, Madly, Deeply"-akin to sophisticated UK version of "Ghost".

Have my ups & downs from minute-to-minute, hour-to-hour (in hoping to heal/recover from loss of a love), and one of the only coping mechanisms available to me is writing (both online & off). Don't know how (or even if) it'll "work"-my futurebrain (module that imagines "that which is not yet so") doesn't function well. I get stuck in the painful present, with constricted sense of future possibilities for happiness, very scary-but what choice do I have ? I accept that my ex has chosen to "move on", but haven't figured out how to live with that new reality...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries, the song is by a band called 'Texas' entitled 'In Demand'... Alan Rickman dances with the vocalist (I presume). The song is an interesting idea for me to run through my head as I reread the lyrics - kind of artificial self confidence, in its own way. For days after the breakup, I was a wreck... when I fought it, I made it worse. Above all, do not insist on absorbing blame as a way of shortening the process; I've done it before, and it is a tough road to climb back.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, awoke this morning to a new blog notice... mind you, this has been a week filled with melodrama as she has chosen to badmouth me to others, while not realizing that much of what is said comes back to me. I appreciate the honesty of the friends and strangers who have spoken up and told me what was happening. I haven't decided if I am going to post in my own blog in response, but I needed to write to process:


The Inconvenient Truth

You might read this; if so, I hope you take a moment to reflect instead of reacting.

There are times when I envy others, to have the ability to selectively recall events to suit the reality I need... but those times are rare and short-lived. It does bother me, though, when others choose to involve me in their delusional patterns of thought... all the more when it is public vitriol infused with biased information.

Without hesitation, I can say it - I am man with many faults... and have not denied that fact. Moody, asocial, overly analytical, easily distracted, prone to bursts of temper, anger and frustration... and that's just a few. Yet I feel there are many good qualities as well that lie within this mortal coil. In my life, relationships have involved conflict. I'm not saying it is a good thing, or that it is the right way... and acknowledge that my idiosyncrasies are a major component in creating those sparks of conflict between two loving souls. At the same time, I see it as being somewhat healthy when experienced between two mature individuals who are willing to speak their mind and be honest with each other. In the absence of that scenario, it becomes devastating as there are resentments harbored and words left unsaid that build into an unbridgeable gulf. Passion is a furnace that must be tended, lest it go out or burn out of control.

There is a part of me that wishes I could believe your account of what happened... but I can't. Between your constant lying to me, my family, your family and your friends, and the type of behavior exhibited when we had difficulties in the past, I cannot find truth in your words. Your timeline doesn't make sense; he was a part of your vocabulary months before you opted to walk away from everything... just unbelievable. However, I do appreciate the moment of honesty shared when you acknowledged your attitude when you choose to be single. What makes me mad at myself is that I should have recognized when its began to repeat. The warning signs were there from the first, but when you genuinely love someone, you tend to overlook some things - generally at the cost of fixating on others. It surprises me that I am still 'part of the sentence' (some of you will get the reference), and I hope in time that too will pass... I find it somewhat sad.

In retrospect, your leaving is the best thing that could have happened to me in the long run... and from the sound of it, for you as well. For that, I am happy for you... as I said, if you can't be happy with me, I hope you will find someone to be happy with. In the months after your decisions, I spent time renewing friendships with people I had neglected over the years... and discovered that the most precious things are often hidden from sight, buried amidst the chaos and tumult. While there is much ahead, I am thankful for the support and love of those closest to me... for the loyalty and compassion they have shown, and the swift kick in the ass that has been readily applied when needed... the patience in helping me understand where I made mistakes, and understanding the distinction. Another learning experience on the path of life, and it has helped me grow in conjunction with separately discovering what is at root of my own actions and reactions.

Good luck, and good-bye.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote





A dedication in catharsis and anger... the lyrics make me think of her.


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