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Vexcalibur
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 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: Aspies can't lie |
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How true is this?
I won't go into details but I was able to pretty much live a lie for over a year in order to avoid dealing with the reality - I was able to deceive my parents for over a year. If lying is really a hard thing to do for an Aspie, this would confirm I am not one. I think.
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Eggman
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I never tell the truth, every single thing I say is a lie, including this. |
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pineapple
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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I *can* lie, but I'm bad at it, so I usually don't bother. It also, honestly, doesn't come up much.
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Postperson
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I have very limited abilities in deception. I am dx'ed with AS. |
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corroonb
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Eggman wrote: | | I never tell the truth, every single thing I say is a lie, including this. |
Paradox.
I lie extremely well. I am very convincing because I don't show much emotion. I'm also creative and quick thinking too. |
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Jael
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Sure we can...the lack of expressiveness is actually an advantage. I sound the same, whether I am lying or telling the truth.   |
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roygerdodger
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Spokane_Girl
I would walk 500 miles and I would walk 500 more
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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That's bull, aspies can to lie. I have seen it. I knew an aspie in real life when I was 15 and 16 and boy was he a chronic liar. He told stories and he was full of fantasies. He also lied to me about his situation with my brothers. Told me they were bullying him and I go and yell at them and he thank me for sticking up for him. Found out towards my 17th birthday he had lied to me and he was the one bullying them and they told him to go away. I also found out he lied about other things too because my mother told me and boy was I angry and hurt. I was fuming inside. I felt I was taken advantage of and he used my innocence but my mother told me he lies to everyone so he wasn't taking advantage of me.
I also knew another aspie who lied online because he didn't trust anyone and he lied to me a few times; his age, his birthday and the year he was born in. It made me mad because I hate being lied to and I told him I don't know anything about him because how do I know the rest he has told me aren't lies too. He told me he was sorry and he can;t trust people online. I told him if he can;t trust anyone, then why is he online, he shouldn't be on then. We never spoke again after it.
I knew another aspie later on and he was a liar too. He told stories about himself but others on the forum knew he was such a liar and I always got upset with them for picking on him because they were accusing him of lying and it made me mad. Then one day he confessed he lied and I was mad at him and hurt. We still spoke after it after he lied and explained why he did it. He wanted everyone to like him but he realized it didn't work so he gave up. I don't think he has made up stories ever since. But we are no longer friends because I started to get annoyed by him on the forum and stopped talking to him. He did things that was annoying and it was relief he left. But he is on a new forum and I find him still annoying but not as much, only sometimes.
So yes aspies can lie, even my ex could lie too but he didn't make up stories so I never believed him when he said he can't lie. I told him if he can lie about not wearing a diaper, he can lie about other things too.
I do not belive aspies can't lie. I am sure it's true for some but I don't believe it's true for all aspies since I have seen it. Even I am capable of lying so it be bull if I said I can't tell one or I am unable to. I used to lie all the time as a little kid because I thought it keep me from getting into trouble. I have even made up a few stories too in my childhood.
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claire333
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I have great difficulty dealing with lies. It is a painful experience for me to tell a lie myself and like most people; I don't care for being lied to. I even find it hard to be in the presence of someone telling another person a lie. I keep my mouth shut because I know it's none of my business, but in my head I am screaming, liar, you're lying. I suck at lying. Most times I don't even try.
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-JR
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Put on the spot, I cannot lie convincingly, tho I'll try to avoid embarrasment.
I do not *like* lying, but there are times I HAVE to. Just to protect myself. Also, much of my life has been lived with what felt like a "mask" hiding what I feel, what I think, who I am. This is somewhat a lie. "Fitting in" was a lie I've led for quite a time. Never felt good about that, but really what was the choice? In order to be considered "normal" I've had to lie countless times. I'm through with normal now. People can make faces, judgements, what have you, I'm happy with myself now. Lying? I've lived it.
I'm self dx, so take this with a grain of salt, ain't completely sure of my self dx these days...
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LostInSpace
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I have *definitely* known Aspies who could lie (formally diagnosed Aspies- not a guess on my part). |
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2ukenkerl
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| claire333 wrote: | | I have great difficulty dealing with lies. It is a painful experience for me to tell a lie myself and like most people; I don't care for being lied to. I even find it hard to be in the presence of someone telling another person a lie. I keep my mouth shut because I know it's none of my business, but in my head I am screaming, liar, you're lying. I suck at lying. Most times I don't even try. |
Same HERE! HECK, sometimes I feel nervous enough to maybe have it show as a lie, EVEN when I am telling the truth. |
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Triangular_Trees
What is right is sometimes found on the left.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| I started lying as a child because I got fed up with getting in trouble for lying every time I told the truth |
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-JR
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:03 am Post subject: |
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How about bullshtting? I've found this EXTREMELY difficult. When friends and myself experience the same thing, I've got the "boring" version, whilst everyone else adds the little "flair"... I've tried that, didn't work. Felt fake anyway, didn't like that one bit. But it's one of the things that's pissed me off a bit, is that everyone kind of knows everyone else BSes, but noone cares....
claire333-just saw your post-EXACTLY! 
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Tim_Tex
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As far as relationships go, the whole reason I limit myself to other Aspies is because I am convinced that we don't lie or cheat.
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