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Paddy789
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I guess my laptop is one of the lucky ones then, Ubuntu causes no heat problems on it.
Unless it can control the fan, I doubt it could kill the CPU. |
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Orwell
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Paddy789 wrote: | I guess my laptop is one of the lucky ones then, Ubuntu causes no heat problems on it.
Unless it can control the fan, I doubt it could kill the CPU. |
A couple times I've found my Macbook (when it should be asleep) somehow having the screen lit up even though the laptop lid was closed and with the fan going at ridiculous speeds, and also the comp being VERY hot to the touch. And that's not even as bad as some others- Toshibas are notorious for overheating even in Windows, and I've heard they have all kinds of trouble with Linux. But, the newer kernel (2.6.26 I think?) supposedly does not have that problem. I'll test a newer distro out when I have more time on my hands. For now, Mac OSX and soon-to-be Windows XP.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Orwell wrote: | | Paddy789 wrote: | I guess my laptop is one of the lucky ones then, Ubuntu causes no heat problems on it.
Unless it can control the fan, I doubt it could kill the CPU. |
A couple times I've found my Macbook (when it should be asleep) somehow having the screen lit up even though the laptop lid was closed and with the fan going at ridiculous speeds, and also the comp being VERY hot to the touch. And that's not even as bad as some others- Toshibas are notorious for overheating even in Windows, and I've heard they have all kinds of trouble with Linux. But, the newer kernel (2.6.26 I think?) supposedly does not have that problem. I'll test a newer distro out when I have more time on my hands. For now, Mac OSX and soon-to-be Windows XP. |
I have one of those notorious Toshibas you mentioned. It runs a tetch hotter in ubuntu, I'd say 3 or 4 degrees. But, it's more stable. The fans seem to come on far more often now.
Sometimes, overheating can be fixed by updating BIOS. Between that and the OS switch, Toby here hasn't shut down unless I tell him to for about 3 weeks. It used to be a daily thing since I live in a brick oven.
Laptops will almost always find a way to overheat. It's just finding a way to make them not. I set my screen settings to turn off the screen after 30 mins, it goes to a blank screensaver after ten. And I have him propped up on a metal TV tray with holes cut out so the fans get better airflow. And I removed the fanguards on the bottom. I get more fuzzies that way, but the guards on here were a joke. It was like aluminium cheesecloth.
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Fuzzy
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Sounds like a hardware issue for your friend. A CPU has got to get really friggin hot to fry. The modern intel chips contain a fail safe that watch for a delta change per second. over 1 degree or something and they should shut down. Its purely bios driven, so the OS should not have an effect there. Over 80c and it should shut down. You can possibly check the settings for that in your bios.
Some of the older AMDs fail because of that. They dont have as good of support for the fail safe.
The only other thing i can think of is if the CPU fan failed suddenly. Even in that case, the heat sink should supress the heat spike and the bios shut it down.
I guess it could run the fan more aggressively and thus collect dust and fuzz faster.
Is there any data on what causes this though?
This is the closest I can find.
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-laptops/122620-overheating-help-before-fries-my-laptop.html
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/858639.html
My old acer laptop would not install ubuntu. I had to clean it for dust several times before it would complete the partitions. Now it runs great. Its an acer Travelmate 4650.
I was getting close to pulling the hard drive and installing it on another machine.
Another thing that can go wrong is the thermal paste can get hard and separate from the CPU.
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Back on Ubuntu... I just couldn't take OSX's user interface. It's so clumsy and messy. And applications stay open unless you go really out of your way to close them, and then you end up with about ten apps running simultaneously even while you're only using one, which slows your comp down a ton.
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| Orwell wrote: | | Paddy789 wrote: | I guess my laptop is one of the lucky ones then, Ubuntu causes no heat problems on it.
Unless it can control the fan, I doubt it could kill the CPU. |
A couple times I've found my Macbook (when it should be asleep) somehow having the screen lit up even though the laptop lid was closed and with the fan going at ridiculous speeds, and also the comp being VERY hot to the touch. And that's not even as bad as some others- Toshibas are notorious for overheating even in Windows, and I've heard they have all kinds of trouble with Linux. But, the newer kernel (2.6.26 I think?) supposedly does not have that problem. I'll test a newer distro out when I have more time on my hands. For now, Mac OSX and soon-to-be Windows XP. |
I agree - an operating system should not affect temperature. If you're having problems with the screen, did you tell it to blank the screen when you put the lid down? If so I'm guessing the Linux kernel has no way of knowing when the lid goes down.
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| Aaron_Mason wrote: | | I agree - an operating system should not affect temperature. If you're having problems with the screen, did you tell it to blank the screen when you put the lid down? If so I'm guessing the Linux kernel has no way of knowing when the lid goes down. |
Yes, I told it to blank the screen when the lid goes down. And it does- but sometimes it will come back on later, which can really suck if I'm not there. And it's not just when it's sleeping- Ubuntu runs hotter than OSX for everyday tasks. I don't know why, but I've heard that newer kernel versions don't have that problem.
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Fuzzy
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Do you have the sensor tools activated?
http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/09/30/Ubuntu-Sensor-temperature-monitoring-with-lmsensors
You'll be able to watch the temperatures. also, it looks like tonight some 2.6.24-19 kernels images are in the updates. 44 megs total for me.
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| An operating system relies on the organic matter between itself and the chair... |
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patrick6
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Dear nerds,
I consider myself as being a computer-savvy guy who appreciates all the stuff he (me) can do with a computer, but I don't enjoy talking about computers all that much.
I love the things you can do with computers, but I don't like computers. Computers are dumb boxes. Some people consider me as being a computer-geek, but I seriously hate being associated with computers. |
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Fuzzy
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| pat666rick wrote: | Dear nerds,
I consider myself as being a computer-savvy guy who appreciates all the stuff he (me) can do with a computer, but I don't enjoy talking about computers all that much.
I love the things you can do with computers, but I don't like computers. Computers are dumb boxes. Some people consider me as being a computer-geek, but I seriously hate being associated with computers. |
A pugnacious poster named Pat,
thought himself WP's Hep cat.
his every post seems a slight,
but his arguments are never that bright,
Pat? You aint all that.
Fuzzy? A nerd?
My god man, thats absurd!
But dont expect an apology,
for my love of technology,
at least *I* dont follow the herd.
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Orwell
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| pat666rick wrote: | | I don't enjoy talking about computers all that much. |
Then why the hell have you spent so much time doing so?
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Eggman
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Weird forum to say that on. |
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aspiewhostandsalone
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OK after reading all the posts on the subject MAN all i have to say is WOW. People these are just OSes and anyone is free to use the one of their choice. for example i use Linux Mint because its easy to use and i don"t have to have a virus scanner running 24 hours a day just to have my system in a usable state when i need to use it. In other words whatever OS one person chooses to use should be fine as long as it meets their needs and they shouldn't have to worry about being mocked because of their OS choice.Oh yea i almost forgot that i kind of wished that maturity would've not gone down as a result of people bashing Linux or any other OS for that matter.
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Paddy789
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Patrick, you're an idiot. |
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