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khelben1979
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There's nothing wrong with Linux.
Different distributions offer different packages and offer different tools for installation and maintainance.
I would never go for Ubuntu myself. Debian works like a dream nowadays! |
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RogueProcess
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| Drakilor wrote: |
Unless you're running a server, Windows can do anything Linux can but better, especially DirectX, the best graphics API there is (designed specifically for games, therefore faster). |
I have to disagree, OpenGL is just as good an API as Direct3D/X, is open-standard, cross-platform and non-proprietary. The only advantage DirectX has is that since MS maintains it, it can make use of the Windows architecture better, since M$ owns the Windows source-code, meaning it is better optimized to run on Windows. Also, the reason it is now such a widely-adopted API is that Microsoft stole large portions of OpenGL's design and specification to make it a more applealing platform for developers.
| Paddy789 wrote: | | Bull, an OS can't overheat a CPU. |
An OS can't directly overheat a CPU on its own. However, each OS has to have its own power-management features, as these are tied to what programs you have running so cannot be effectively controlled from the hardware level. OSX has awesome power management, Windows is alright, although I haven't run Ubuntu on my MacBook yet, so I couldn't say.
As part of his PHD in artificial intelligence, my friend ran a pretty complex AI program in Windows on his MacBook Pro for 20 hours, running both cores of his CPU at full whack. At the end of the 20 hours, he discovered his machine has switched itself off due to overheating, took the motherboard out and discovered the thermal paste on top of the CPU had been turned to dust (!). Now the machne can only run at 70% CPU capacity before cutting out, probably because the heat-sensor got fried.
| patrick6 wrote: | Dear nerds,
I consider myself as being a computer-savvy guy who appreciates all the stuff he (me) can do with a computer, but I don't enjoy talking about computers all that much.
I love the things you can do with computers, but I don't like computers. Computers are dumb boxes. Some people consider me as being a computer-geek, but I seriously hate being associated with computers. |
If you don't enjoy talking about computers, then why the hell did you start this idiotic thread? Save us your immaturity and idiocy next time and shut the hell up. What did you hope to achieve by starting a thread in the 'computers, maths, science and tech' thread, ripping into Linux in the least informed manner, and then calling everyone who thught you were wrong and had the facts to prove so a 'zealot' and a 'nerd'.
Come on dude, that's the equivalent of walking into a gay-bar, shouting homophobic abuse to the clientelle and expecting them to agree with you. |
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finrod
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| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Patrick,
Linux is a system for people who know about computers. Windows is a system for people who know jacksquat and so need to tell the computer how to tell them everything.
If you are having so much hatred for linux, its probably because you don't have the first clue about how to download programs that you like, write your own source code or develop your own programs |
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RogueProcess
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| finrod wrote: | Patrick,
Linux is a system for people who know about computers. Windows is a system for people who know jacksquat and so need to tell the computer how to tell them everything.
If you are having so much hatred for linux, its probably because you don't have the first clue about how to download programs that you like, write your own source code or develop your own programs |
Totally agree, except these days, it's probably easier to install stuff on Linux  Gotta love package management! |
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Orwell
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| RogueProcess wrote: | | finrod wrote: | Patrick,
Linux is a system for people who know about computers. Windows is a system for people who know jacksquat and so need to tell the computer how to tell them everything.
If you are having so much hatred for linux, its probably because you don't have the first clue about how to download programs that you like, write your own source code or develop your own programs |
Totally agree, except these days, it's probably easier to install stuff on Linux Gotta love package management! |
sudo apt-get install awesomeness. There is no analogue in OSX, and probably not in Windows either.
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LostInEmulation
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:00 am Post subject: |
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Eggman
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| Ever tried running windows on a gumstick, clearly linux is the superior choice |
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dark_mage
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| Orwell wrote: | | RogueProcess wrote: | | finrod wrote: | Patrick,
Linux is a system for people who know about computers. Windows is a system for people who know jacksquat and so need to tell the computer how to tell them everything.
If you are having so much hatred for linux, its probably because you don't have the first clue about how to download programs that you like, write your own source code or develop your own programs |
Totally agree, except these days, it's probably easier to install stuff on Linux Gotta love package management! |
sudo apt-get install awesomeness. There is no analogue in OSX, and probably not in Windows either. |
Orwell I'm going to include this too since you can install packages this way in Debian & Ubuntu
sudo aptitude install awesomeness
aptitude takes care of dependencies quite nicely but either way will work
as for the original poster
sudo research linux
enter password (my user password on linux)
Linux is a useful operating system that is many ways superior to Windows (This coming from a user who grew up learning DOS & uses OS X, Windows, XP & Vista as well as Ubuntu) It can be customized to run on many different hardware types including hardware that Windows wouldn't even consider running on. A LiveCD system (runs completely from CD doesn't touch Hard Drive) can show the user the wonders of this OS) and if help is desired the community is glad to step in provided that the request for help is asked respectfully & that all necessary details are provided. Many forums exist for linux help such Linuxquestions.org or for Debian related questions the Debian Wiki (wiki.debian.org) or the Debian forums (forums.debian.net) are useful & a google search will reveal many other forums for other distributions. Ubuntu has ubuntuforums.org/ as well as its own Wiki where you may find answers to your questions. In addition for various tasks on linux howtoforge.com provides user submitted tutorials for various linux distributions.
sudo -k (kill sudo session) clear && exit (clear terminal & exit terminal)
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one1ai
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Just a note. You don't need to post youtube videos. As of firefox 3.5.1 and later, it supports ogg vorbis and theora and you can upload your video to any site that will not convert it to closed standards. I post this so I can see the world change a few years sooner than a few years later. Anyway it will change, because openness is something that always existed and none can take it away from humanity, since it always belonged to us.
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Fuzzy
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Pats long gone folks.
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khelben1979
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| Fuzzy wrote: | | Pats long gone folks. |
What do you mean by that?
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Fuzzy
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| khelben1979 wrote: | | Fuzzy wrote: | | Pats long gone folks. |
What do you mean by that? |
The account hasnt posted anything in over a year. Since he is an angry opinionated young man, it makes sense that hes probably abandoned the account, and likely WP.
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CloudWalker
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| RogueProcess wrote: | | I have to disagree, OpenGL is just as good an API as Direct3D/X, is open-standard, cross-platform and non-proprietary. The only advantage DirectX has is that since MS maintains it, it can make use of the Windows architecture better, since M$ owns the Windows source-code, meaning it is better optimized to run on Windows. Also, the reason it is now such a widely-adopted API is that Microsoft stole large portions of OpenGL's design and specification to make it a more applealing platform for developers. |
OpenGL has been lagging behind for sometime. Even OpenGL 3.2 aren't at the same level as DirectX 10, not to mention DirectX 11.
| RogueProcess wrote: | An OS can't directly overheat a CPU on its own. However, each OS has to have its own power-management features, as these are tied to what programs you have running so cannot be effectively controlled from the hardware level. OSX has awesome power management, Windows is alright, although I haven't run Ubuntu on my MacBook yet, so I couldn't say.
As part of his PHD in artificial intelligence, my friend ran a pretty complex AI program in Windows on his MacBook Pro for 20 hours, running both cores of his CPU at full whack. At the end of the 20 hours, he discovered his machine has switched itself off due to overheating, took the motherboard out and discovered the thermal paste on top of the CPU had been turned to dust (!). Now the machne can only run at 70% CPU capacity before cutting out, probably because the heat-sensor got fried. |
Not sure what message you tried to convey. Are you saying Windows isn't monitoring your hardware and let your CPU fired? Well, thermal throttling is supported by the CPU itself. If a CPU is fired after running for only 20hrs, Apple either messed up its firmware, or the notebook wasn't designed with enough cooling, or more likely both. |
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Audiophile
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| Fuzzy wrote: | You havent defined what makes it mediocre, or useless. You are just ranting. No substance.
How about pressing the off button on your feelings and tuning on your logic and posting again? |
Show me a presentation software for Linux that has a presenter view like MS PowerPoint/ Apple Keynote does. Or, a simple way to get dual screens working. Who could forgot the support for so many mainstream media formats? I know alot of people who use Apple Lossless, don't tell me that it's a small percentage.
And plus, linux uses obscure formats itself because normal formats cost money. The Linux Fondation does make money by donations so they could afford using the correct formats.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I stopped using Ubuntu 9.04 because of the inferior software and I had a lot of Wi-Fi problems. |
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