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KenM
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: After trying to change, I know now people with AS can't Reply with quote

I keep having reltionship issues. Alot of it is due to my AS. I keep trying to change my point of view, how i act, attitude. I keep coming back to my same way of thinking and all that.
God wants us to stay this way alone and miserable. Don't try to change, accept who you are, a person with AS that will always be alone. I'm just coming to accept it now after 40 years of trying to be someone I'm not.

To the other people with AS, don't go out, try to interact socailly as little as possible, don't think it will get better because it won't. God made us with AS and he wants us to stay miserable and unable to properly interact social with real people.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: After trying to change, I know now people with AS can't Reply with quote

KenM wrote:
God made us with AS and he wants us to stay miserable and unable to properly interact social with real people.

I have accepted it and I am not miserable anymore.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe in God, but I have to say that is utter codswallop. You can change its just very hard to do it, I thought i would be without friends forever but I now very good friends at my college and i have met some great people on the internet that make me feel that I belong. There are some things that i have accepted that I will never be able to do like drive a car or be a mechanic or something like that. But i know you can change. So don't be depressed that all your life is a curse, because actually it is a blessing.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with pretending to be someone else?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

god did not make me or anyone else for that matter. I also do not think that I should closet myself away, having my DX has helped me understand my behaviour and also those close to me get it now as well. So worst case there is more understanding and better than that I do think that I can modify some of my behaviour
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: After trying to change, I know now people with AS can't Reply with quote

KenM wrote:
I keep having reltionship issues. Alot of it is due to my AS. I keep trying to change my point of view, how i act, attitude. I keep coming back to my same way of thinking and all that.
God wants us to stay this way alone and miserable. Don't try to change, accept who you are, a person with AS that will always be alone. I'm just coming to accept it now after 40 years of trying to be someone I'm not.

To the other people with AS, don't go out, try to interact socailly as little as possible, don't think it will get better because it won't. God made us with AS and he wants us to stay miserable and unable to properly interact social with real people.


WHAT?? a) i highly doubt there is a god, i'm totally atheist. b) If there is a god, im my own person screw what he/she/it wants and c) you can change, i have changed, i now fit in with people around me, its a mask, i havnt changed inside, but i can pretend i have enough so it doesnt matter anymore. Thats why i have come on here, my friends dont understand, my girlfriend doesnt want to understand, and i need people to talk to. But yeah, people can change, can lead normal lives, your aspergers is a gift. it allows a different outlook, one we all need. . .
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well life is funny, have fun and maybe try some new things and life should settle out, I heard a thing that god helps people not by giving them what they what but instead giving you a chance to chalange yourself to get it yourself.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... I don't want to say you did anything wrong or messed up. Because frankly, it's not like you did that socialising alone (there are always at least 2 people that are responsible for the outcome.)

But I have the very opposite experience.

I changed sooo much. It was quite easy to. I could never change to non-autistic of course! But I interact a lot and I do it well. It's easy now that I do it my own way.

It is possible. But it could take a while to find your own way. Not an autistic one, not a non-autistic one, just yours.

If you feel miserable alone, that's not right for you. So you just got to keep fighting for social relationships. There's always a lot of trying and failing involved in succeeding.

But you always got to remember that it's possible to be happy.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: After trying to change, I know now people with AS can't Reply with quote

KenM wrote:

To the other people with AS, don't go out, try to interact socailly as little as possible, don't think it will get better because it won't. God made us with AS and he wants us to stay miserable and unable to properly interact social with real people.


First off God doesn't exist. Secondly you should be telling people that. Some aren't alone and won't end up that way and others need hope.

As for me I'm nearly 22 and I've known my fate was to be alone when I was around 17 and I made my peace with that. This statement is a fact and not just me giving up or anything. I don't want to be alone but the odds are highly against it.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: After trying to change, I know now people with AS can't Reply with quote

KenM wrote:
To the other people with AS, don't go out, try to interact socailly as little as possible, don't think it will get better because it won't. God made us with AS and he wants us to stay miserable and unable to properly interact social with real people.


You ever heard the Green Day song 'Walking Contradiction'? Because I am a walking contradiction of your argument.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first step in solving my problems is by not accepting them. Learning social skills helped me with my social issues, which is the most severe part of AS.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I belive god exists, but it is how it was said in futurama, you know you did the job right when no one knew you did anything at all. Now I am no avid Jesus lover who has to mention him to get a point across, but everything happens for a reason. Dont think that I am a nut but I belive that world in a way is a way of learning lesons that will help us, think me wrong if you will, I know that your opinion is more valid and I am probably wrong in many ways. I think in some ways you should just be mellow, I am willing to accept there could be no god can you accept there could be a god, or do you just want to be a sceptic. Our AS lives happen for a reason if only to see things differently.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry to get off topic but I said God, not a god. Christianity(which I was raised) and Islam I truely believe are not based on fact. I don't know enough about other religions. Judaism although I don't have enough knowledge about it has a high chance of being true. The only thing against it is that technically Christianity, Islam and Judaism all worship the same god.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thats not true in my case I used to be alone all the time, but now i'm married and have 2 good friends and 2 good online friends as well.
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