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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: Obama and autism |
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I've seen the Democrats' Convention in Denver with Obama, who had a fantastic speech. He also aksed for undertanding gay right and more understanding of Autism.
I didn't know Autism was so apparent in the USA, that a presidential candidate needed to mention it in his speech?? But good for him and us...vote for him!!!
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I'm so happy about Obama's awareness of autism. I sent him a letter about a month and a half ago urging him to focus on acceptance and helping people on their own terms rather than on supporting institutions like the JRC and other programs and "treatments" that hurt autistics but appease those who support normalcy at all costs. No idea if he read it, or if it even got farther than his secretary, but it was worth a shot.
Somehow, I get the sense that, given all the information, Obama would be a strong supporter of autistic self-determination and other rights. It's just a matter of making sure he knows that curebie parents aren't the only ones to be considered. |
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ProtossX
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Sarah Palin who is VP candidant for McCain has a child who suffers from down syndrome and is tryin to take the best care of her I get the feeling obama doesn't know what its like at all to raise a child with autism or have any type of disability at all
Palin sseems to u know think everyone desrves the right to live obama said its ok for parents to terminate there babies if they have autism or a genetic malfunction as he calls it a mistake |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| ProtossX wrote: | Sarah Palin who is VP candidant for McCain has a child who suffers from down syndrome and is tryin to take the best care of her I get the feeling obama doesn't know what its like at all to raise a child with autism or have any type of disability at all
Palin sseems to u know think everyone desrves the right to live obama said its ok for parents to terminate there babies if they have autism or a genetic malfunction as he calls it a mistake |
when and where did he say that, I can't and will not believe he would say such a thing, as for Palin, it is just pr to looka as middle class normal Michelle Obama and her kids
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ProtossX wrote: | Sarah Palin who is VP candidant for McCain has a child who suffers from down syndrome and is tryin to take the best care of her I get the feeling obama doesn't know what its like at all to raise a child with autism or have any type of disability at all
Palin sseems to u know think everyone desrves the right to live obama said its ok for parents to terminate there babies if they have autism or a genetic malfunction as he calls it a mistake |
So, are you anti-abortion across the board ? |
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Obama is Pro Choice AKA meaning the women can decide to terminate the baby at any time and obama even said if a failed abortion took place an the baby is born with autism/down syndrome the mother should be able put to it to death since its the women's choice
they had a case about that where a child was born with severe mental disabilities from a failed abortion an the mother wanted the child to be off life support an obama thats ok to do that |
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He said in his speech that he was not pro abortion, but that means should be available for unwanted pregnancy
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| ProtossX wrote: | Obama is Pro Choice AKA meaning the women can decide to terminate the baby at any time and obama even said if a failed abortion took place an the baby is born with autism/down syndrome the mother should be able put to it to death since its the women's choice
they had a case about that where a child was born with severe mental disabilities from a failed abortion an the mother wanted the child to be off life support an obama thats ok to do that |
So, should rape victims be forced to bear the children of their rapists ? |
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How can you not be Pro Abortion but allow to happen it?
Doesn't make sense its like its ok if other people do it but not me? It's not like smoking or drinking alchohol
You're either killing a baby or you're not its not really multiple choice answer if you think about it like other choices. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| ProtossX wrote: | | Obama is Pro Choice AKA meaning the women can decide to terminate the baby at any time and obama even said if a failed abortion took place an the baby is born with autism/down syndrome the mother should be able put to it to death since its the women's choice |
The above does not follow from the information 'supporting' it.
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they had a case about that where a child was born with severe mental disabilities from a failed abortion an the mother wanted the child to be off life support an obama thats ok to do that |
Based on this information, we cannot determine that Obama supports a right for a mother to put to death a child harmed from as a result of failed abortion.
How are we to know that the support (Obama gave) in this case is correlated a failed abortion? Many people support a right for next of kin to be able to make a decision to remove life-support from an incapacitated patient who has no realistic recovery prospects. How can we ascertain that it is not the right to make medical decisions on behalf of a dependent minor that Obama was supporting?
Is there more information (such as an explicit statement in which Obama links his support to the circumstance of a failed abortion) that has not been included in your post that allows you to know the reason for Obama's support (for a right for the mother to withdraw life support)? |
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Both Obama and Biden are high elves. That is why they get along.
Mccain is an Orc. Bush is a goblin. Orcs and goblins both share same types of agendas but crave power so Bush isn't happy with Mccain because he was hoping for another Goblin to take his place.
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| Ahah.. Obama wouldnt get my vote just for mentioning my disorder.. its just his way of getting that extra 10% from the gays and from the autistic people.. dont be stupiddd.. this is politics, and he played yow ass.. |
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I'm prob the only autistic not going to vote for him, i feel hes wayyy too inexperienced and hes all for abortion and all for the school telling the parents how they should educate their kids rather then the parents, and also he says hes going to give all this money to help autism and etc, but it almost feels like he talks a big game, but doesn't seem to follow through. I'm sorry my vote is going to mccain and mainly the reason is because hes more experienced and hes against abortion! Thats only my opinion!
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