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slowmutant Phoenix


Joined: Feb 14, 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 9859 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:39 am Post subject: Would the Grandfather Paradox Actually Happen? |
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If, in your past, you caused a high-impact event like the death of your grandfather and then time-skipped back to your present ... you'd be dead, right? You'd cease to exist the moment ol' Grampy stopped kicking, right? But where would you disappear to if those Heisenberg conservation principles still held?
Think about it.
If what we think of as "time-travel" is actually nothing more than travel between parallel universes, it would be best described not as linear forward/backward motion, but sideways. If by whatever process the temponaut(s) effectively tear a hole in the fabric of space-time (as in Event Horizon), rendering invalid the concept of linear progression ...
What I mean to say is this:
What if I offed my grandfather in the past, went back to the present, and discovered I still had a grandfather? Maybe what I thought was the past was actually a whole other dimension or universe ....
 _________________ God is a consuming fire ... |
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Reodor_Felgen Counting down till Castro bites the dust

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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: |
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I doubt you can travel backwards in time, because I doubt the past even exists. If it would ever be possible to travel back in time, why haven't anyone from the future visited ut yet? _________________ WP doesn't have a working first amendment.
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slowmutant Phoenix


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| Reodor_Felgen wrote: | | I doubt you can travel backwards in time, because I doubt the past even exists. If it would ever be possible to travel back in time, why haven't anyone from the future visited ut yet? |
What's to say they haven't?  _________________ God is a consuming fire ... |
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monty Phoenix


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| Reodor_Felgen wrote: | | I doubt you can travel backwards in time, because I doubt the past even exists. |
Yes - only the present exists. Past and future are creations of the human mind. |
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slowmutant Phoenix


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| monty wrote: | | Reodor_Felgen wrote: | | I doubt you can travel backwards in time, because I doubt the past even exists. |
Yes - only the present exists. Past and future are creations of the human mind. |
Prove it. _________________ God is a consuming fire ... |
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DNForrest Deinonychus


Joined: Jan 19, 2008 Age: 24 Posts: 375 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| Watch the episode of Futurama entitled "Roswell that Ends Wells" to find out. |
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Keith Guarding my post here

Joined: Aug 13, 2008 Age: 25 Posts: 1294 Location: East Sussex, UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: |
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You can't die if you never existed. You have to be alive to die. Killing your grandfather or if he should die would cause a few other things to change as well. It's the butterfly effect.
If there are different solutions to different decisions played out in alternate universe's then that would mean there are too many to count possible involving a few Trillion outcomes dating from the age of the planet itself. Being able to control which universe you could go to would mean the device would have to be accurate 100% and no less. Otherwise you could find yourself getting close to home but never getting there |
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slowmutant Phoenix


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Let's say the universe I came from has a certain quantum frequency, If I originate fron that universe, would I not also have that same quantum frequency? _________________ God is a consuming fire ... |
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Reodor_Felgen Counting down till Castro bites the dust

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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | monty wrote: | | Reodor_Felgen wrote: | | I doubt you can travel backwards in time, because I doubt the past even exists. |
Yes - only the present exists. Past and future are creations of the human mind. |
Prove it. |
Prove that the past and the future actually does exist. _________________ WP doesn't have a working first amendment.
[color=black]F[/color]uck. This will override the swear word filter. |
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slowmutant Phoenix


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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The past, as it becomes the present, produces spoor we call artifacts. The remains of the Berlin Wall. The Tower of London, the Pryamids, Stonehenge, etc. _________________ God is a consuming fire ... |
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ShawnWilliam Phoenix


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:55 am Post subject: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54gCtCjjxk&feature=related
this is a good series of videos, by a physicist who has a lot of respect and is creating a time machine.. he's figured out a way to do it theoretically and is putting it to test.
I would also like to mention that it is speculated that time travel is already possible and is practiced at Area 51.. where else?.. im not speculating from crazy conspiracy loons though im speculating because a man who used to work in the government said so who worked in the black government projects.. wish i remembered his name >.< d'oh! |
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chever 'Mud'

Joined: Aug 22, 2008 Age: 20 Posts: 1668 Location: Earth
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Physics is for phascists _________________ "You can take me, but you cannot take my bunghole! For I have no bunghole! I am the Great Cornholio!" |
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slowmutant Phoenix


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| chever wrote: | | Physics is for phascists |
Really? Since when? _________________ God is a consuming fire ... |
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SPCDavid Raven


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Suppose time travel was a possibility, but the inventor went into the past and prevented it from being invented because it was trouble. I mean personally I would've bought lotto tickets, but to each his own. |
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chever 'Mud'

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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | chever wrote: | | Physics is for phascists |
Really? Since when? |
Since the left brain started being right wing, seriously _________________ "You can take me, but you cannot take my bunghole! For I have no bunghole! I am the Great Cornholio!" |
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