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Meowpurr
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Interesting videos, thanks for posting them.
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| My cousin is schizophrenic, he works as a translator, and has a little boy who he adores. |
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sgrannel
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I once cried because I had no shoes, until I saw a man who had no feet! I'm so glad schizophrenia is not one of my problems!
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| sgrannel wrote: | | I once cried because I had no shoes, until I saw a man who had no feet! I'm so glad schizophrenia is not one of my problems! |
I used to live in Angola during the civil war. It was common to see people without limbs. There were very few people who get could hold any treatment let alone prosthetics. My memory of my younger years is poor but I particularly remember this guy that was literally just a torso, and some black plastic that he'd salvaged rapped round his stump. He was attempting to cross the road. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| One thing that is interesting about the first example is how fluid his word salad is. Even if it doesn't make sense he is not saying it hesitantly, but as if it makes perfect sense. I struggle to speak that fluidly at the bet of times. |
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo
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I have seen schizophrenia in real life and I can tell you the media definitiely doesn't do it justice. The media doesn't show enough of the paranoia, the criminal behaviour, the inability and helplessness others have around persons suffering schizophrenia to prevent their decompensation. ( hope that's the right word).
Before you judge me you must remember what I have seen. |
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| ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote: | I have seen schizophrenia in real life and I can tell you the media definitiely doesn't do it justice. The media doesn't show enough of the paranoia, the criminal behaviour, the inability and helplessness others have around persons suffering schizophrenia to prevent their decompensation. ( hope that's the right word).
Before you judge me you must remember what I have seen. |
I'm not attempting judging you although you are lumping schizophrenia all in the one bag, which isn't the reality at all. There isn't one condition of schizophrenia. Ask any psych not stuck in the ninetieth century. It does have an ugly side no doubt. |
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Meowpurr
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| Have met a person that was alot like the first guy but not as severe with the word salad. Yes when he got angry and thought people were out to get him for glancing at him (he referred to it as staring) it was scary how he would respond. |
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KingdomOfRats
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote: | I have seen schizophrenia in real life and I can tell you the media definitiely doesn't do it justice. The media doesn't show enough of the paranoia, the criminal behaviour, the inability and helplessness others have around persons suffering schizophrenia to prevent their decompensation. ( hope that's the right word).
Before you judge me you must remember what I have seen. |
not all schizophrenics are paranoid,or criminal, dont know what decompensation means.
schizophrenia,like autism has a spectrum with different forms and severities and schizophrenics are not all the same [like autists],it seems where ASD is often automatically assumed to only be the mild side of autism by the autistic community,the schizophrenia spectrum is often automatically thought to be the severe and paranoid side.
some schizophrenics have a typical NT life,some may be hospitalised,some may live in group homes for mentally ill,
some only get one or a few attacks,but never again,some are stuck with it their whole life.
am have seen schizophrenia real life as well due to sister running a creative support group home for schizophrenics near family home,living with a severe schizophrenic,and going to school with a schiz x LDer,though that no way represents the spectrum as like with ASD-it's different for each experience.
theres also a decent member on here who has schizophrenia,is neither a cop shop visitor to.
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Meowpurr
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| Thank you for your insightful comment KingdomofRats. |
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I have an aunt who is a schizo but I have never seen it in her. I was little then and she wasn't as bad back then. Now she lives in a group home.
My mother thinks my ex boyfriend might have been one too. His speech was incoherent, he was paranoid, he said the stupidest things like there could be cave men out there and they might use the SNES games as plates. But how the heck would they see a SNES game, they didn't exist back then but he said you would never know and they could travel through time.
Another stupid thing he has said is the gov. hires someone to assassinate you if you know something he doesn't want you to know. He pays the person big money and they keep quiet about it. He doesn't allow investigation.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote: | I have seen schizophrenia in real life and I can tell you the media definitiely doesn't do it justice. The media doesn't show enough of the paranoia, the criminal behaviour, the inability and helplessness others have around persons suffering schizophrenia to prevent their decompensation. ( hope that's the right word).
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And before you judge all schizophrenics you must remember you haven't seen all of them. My little brother is schizophrenic. Life is hell for him but he's gentle and loving and far from criminal. Only a very small percentage ever become violent. You are spreading a nasty stereotype, the same kind the media has spread for too long.
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My mother thinks my ex boyfriend might have been one too. His speech was incoherent, he was paranoid, he said the stupidest things like there could be cave men out there and they might use the SNES games as plates. |
That's not "stupid" per-se. It's a perfectly rational conclusion based a faulty premise.
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| ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote: | I have seen schizophrenia in real life and I can tell you the media definitiely doesn't do it justice. The media doesn't show enough of the paranoia, the criminal behaviour, the inability and helplessness others have around persons suffering schizophrenia to prevent their decompensation. ( hope that's the right word).
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How many people have you seen, or lived with, who have Schizophrenia? I spent my whole life growing up with one, and she's a far better mother than many I have seen in my short life. She raised me very well, even if I do say so myself. I've seen mothers without any kind of illness, be it physical or mental, who can barely manage even the basic tasks of being a mother, yet, it's always my mum who gets disliked and my mum who's discriminated against, even though, dispite struggling with an illness, still made sure to look after me the way a loving mother should and always put me first.
I find your post very offensive and I have to agree with Aurore that you're spreading a very nasty stereotype, which can really make life even more difficult than it already is for people with Schizophrenia and their relatives. This is the type of attitude that leads to discrimination, which I have seen, and been through as a result of my mother's illness.
I have at least 3 people in my family with Schizophrenia. None of them has ever commited a crime. They're all kind, gentle people, who just try to live their life like everyone else, but are often discriminated against and bullied because of the stigma that surrounds their illness.
I don't mean to be rude, but I really found your post offensive and I'm sick of attitudes like this. |
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Callista
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I agree; schizophrenia has a reputation that's a lot worse than it ought to be. It is definitely one of the most disabling mental illnesses; but from what I've read and experienced it doesn't seem to live up to its bad reputation.
Living situations: About a third of people with schizophrenia live independently; another fourth live with family (I assume that means spouses, parents, siblings, etc.). About a fifth live in group homes. The rest are about equally distributed among nursing homes, hospitals, jail or prison, and the streets.
Violence: Higher than non-schizophrenic, but much lower than quite a few other mental illnesses. The increase in violence seems to be due to substance abuse (which is more common for schizophrenics), poverty, and being prone to violence before the onset of symptoms. (When you choose a non-schizophrenic population with those three factors the same as the average for people with the condition, the rates of violence tend to become quite similar.) Some studies also show an increase among unmedicated individuals with delusions.
It may be that the "schizophrenia causes violence" idea is not the correct option because schizophrenia may have a more indirect effect by affecting other variables, such as substance abuse and poverty, which will raise the rate of violence in any group.
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