Joined: Aug 04, 2007 Age: 42 Posts: 1110 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida USA
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject:
And this video, with all it's grammatical and spelling errors, proves what exactly?
Why is this posted in the News and Current Events forum? I don't see a link to a news item... _________________ Never let your schooling interfere with your education. - Samuel Clemens
Joined: May 07, 2008 Posts: 3658 Location: Pantopia
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:15 am Post subject:
Same old story ... nothing new ... nothing to prove ... and nothing to do about it. _________________ The leaders of the American automobile industry have been amazingly consistent in their management philosophy, in that they have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Joined: Nov 27, 2007 Posts: 2589 Location: The murky waters of my mind...
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:39 am Post subject:
Ignore the typos and the other BS in it, just look at the footage itself... does that not scare the crap out of you, regardless of whatever agenda or purposes they're pushing or doing it for? _________________ We are a fever, we are a fever, we ain't born typical...
Joined: Nov 27, 2007 Posts: 2589 Location: The murky waters of my mind...
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:45 am Post subject:
Just personally, I'm sick of them spraying their sh** in my nice blue skies and killing my sunbathing time!! _________________ We are a fever, we are a fever, we ain't born typical...
Sorry, but the claims and charges from the 'contrails crowd' don't stand up to scrutiny. Water vapor from engine exhaust makes clouds. Depending on the atmospheric conditions (temperature, humidity, air pressure, turbulence, etc), these clouds may dissipate quickly, or they may hang around for a long time. The conspiracy theorists cannot agree on what chemicals are being put in the air, or their purpose (other than 'nefarioius' or 'mind control') and there is no evidence of the logistics needed to get huge amounts of the alleged chemicals into thousands of airplanes daily.
Joined: May 07, 2008 Posts: 3658 Location: Pantopia
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:28 am Post subject:
LeKiwi wrote:
Ignore the typos and the other BS in it, just look at the footage itself... does that not scare the crap out of you, regardless of whatever agenda or purposes they're pushing or doing it for?
No, it doesn't. Nor does it imply any agenda.
Besides, improper grammar, spelling, and punctuation are signs of undisciplined and uneducated minds ... such as would occur when people forego the benefits of higher education.
Nuff said? _________________ The leaders of the American automobile industry have been amazingly consistent in their management philosophy, in that they have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 1799 Location: England
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject:
monty wrote:
Sorry, but the claims and charges from the 'contrails crowd' don't stand up to scrutiny. Water vapor from engine exhaust makes clouds. Depending on the atmospheric conditions (temperature, humidity, air pressure, turbulence, etc), these clouds may dissipate quickly, or they may hang around for a long time. The conspiracy theorists cannot agree on what chemicals are being put in the air, or their purpose (other than 'nefarioius' or 'mind control') and there is no evidence of the logistics needed to get huge amounts of the alleged chemicals into thousands of airplanes daily.
Yep - planes are putting water vapour, CO2 and other chemicals in the air. Arguably these are nefarious, but no worse than exhaust from conspiracy theorists' cars... _________________ I neither take revenge, nor beg for favours. (Rabindranath Tagore)
I am the steppenwolf that never learned to dance. (Sedaka)
Joined: May 07, 2008 Posts: 3658 Location: Pantopia
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject:
pbcoll wrote:
monty wrote:
Sorry, but the claims and charges from the 'contrails crowd' don't stand up to scrutiny. Water vapor from engine exhaust makes clouds. Depending on the atmospheric conditions (temperature, humidity, air pressure, turbulence, etc), these clouds may dissipate quickly, or they may hang around for a long time. The conspiracy theorists cannot agree on what chemicals are being put in the air, or their purpose (other than 'nefarioius' or 'mind control') and there is no evidence of the logistics needed to get huge amounts of the alleged chemicals into thousands of airplanes daily.
Yep - planes are putting water vapour, CO2 and other chemicals in the air. Arguably these are nefarious, but no worse than exhaust from conspiracy theorists' cars...
... or their breath and body odor. _________________ The leaders of the American automobile industry have been amazingly consistent in their management philosophy, in that they have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Sorry, but the claims and charges from the 'contrails crowd' don't stand up to scrutiny. Water vapor from engine exhaust makes clouds. Depending on the atmospheric conditions (temperature, humidity, air pressure, turbulence, etc), these clouds may dissipate quickly, or they may hang around for a long time. The conspiracy theorists cannot agree on what chemicals are being put in the air, or their purpose (other than 'nefarioius' or 'mind control') and there is no evidence of the logistics needed to get huge amounts of the alleged chemicals into thousands of airplanes daily.
You are dense. If you watched the video you would see documented proof that chemicals are being put in the air. I know 10 minutes is a long time, but I doubt that any one of you skeptics even watched the video.
Remember the part where they show one plane flying by, and its contrail disappeared instantly? and in the exact same footage another one flies by and it doesn't disappear at all? Remember that part??..
Remember the part where they created a tic tac toe pattern accross the sky?
Just do me a favor.. go outside and look at your sky.. contrails are not chemtrails.. they are very different.. contrails disappear right away. The atmosphere's condition doesn't make the contrails stay in the air, that is proven.
Ignore the typos and the other BS in it, just look at the footage itself... does that not scare the crap out of you, regardless of whatever agenda or purposes they're pushing or doing it for?
No, it doesn't. Nor does it imply any agenda.
Besides, improper grammar, spelling, and punctuation are signs of undisciplined and uneducated minds ... such as would occur when people forego the benefits of higher education.
Nuff said?
I'm pretty sure the guy who made it was japanese.. and didn't specialize in english speaking or grammar. The video footage speaks for itself.. Quit ruining it for people. People should be aware of what is going on. And YOU suppress it. What is going on is an act of conspiracy. The footage is there, the proof is there, but the government says nothing about it.
I was sitting outside today and saw the same patterns in my sky.. and realised that i HAD heard planes flying around early in the morning.. and then I get up and see an overcast sky.. this is bullshit. There is NO airport near this town.
Joined: Apr 06, 2007 Age: 26 Posts: 5005 Location: London
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject:
LeKiwi wrote:
Just personally, I'm sick of them spraying their sh** in my nice blue skies and killing my sunbathing time!!
I'm sick of both gas guzzlers and environmentalist that don’t know what they are talking about. I forgive the apathetic people up to an extent.
Much of this culminates out of the myth that earth is this cuddly thing and we the only destructive elements at play. You would not want to have lived in the volcanic age. Ecology is about saving natural habitats that we depend on. Many habitats have existed/not existed several times before humans came along. However the earth has a finite life like everything. What we have to make sure of is that is that we don't shorten it to the extent we don't have a plan B or at the very least the best innings. If we want to survive beyond when the earth will be inhabitable then there will need to be a plan B. But that could take hundreds of years to develop, if it is possible. Also the fight against climate change is not about blame. We can cause some global warming, but also it can occur without us. So the point of fighting climate change is much more about fighting for our survival and the things we value, than restoring this cute and cuddly version of the earth that never existed. Notice I omitted the words 'natural' and 'man made'. That is because in the physical world it impossible to separate anything from nature. Everything is nature. This challenge requires some passion no doubt, but we can’t do without intelligent decisions. Many things you might think might work intuitively might not be the best option at all. The first job is the shorter term solutions so we can come up with the longer term solutions.
Sunbathing would imply you would want more global warming. Global dimming counteracts global warming; this has been known for a long time. The rate of global diming is decreasing. One of the more respected scientist in the climate, the guy that discovered the hole ozone layer (which many people get mixed up with global warming for some reason), has come up with one of the most feasible, and economically viable solutions to global warming. You might not like it. It involves sending rockets filled with sulphur to high altitude releasing the payload. How does he know this works? Well he studied volcanic super eruptions, crucially the ones with enough force to send sulphurous material to very high altitudes. This material is then swept all the way round the earth causing an overall cooling effect due to dimming. It is this type of phenomena that would have helped kick-start the type of atmosphere/climate that eventually gave rise to humans and most animals. The down side is there will be acid rain. But this is a small price to pay. He even conceded that a small gap in the ozone layer might not be so much as problem as not taking action against global warming.
There irony of those videos is they are showing jet trails. The jet trails are caused by water vapour, the actul polution from the planes will not be visible from the ground.
Cloud seeding is also something that has been done for decades but it doesn't look thike a contrail, none of this is covered up.
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Sorry, but the claims and charges from the 'contrails crowd' don't stand up to scrutiny. Water vapor from engine exhaust makes clouds. Depending on the atmospheric conditions (temperature, humidity, air pressure, turbulence, etc), these clouds may dissipate quickly, or they may hang around for a long time. The conspiracy theorists cannot agree on what chemicals are being put in the air, or their purpose (other than 'nefarioius' or 'mind control') and there is no evidence of the logistics needed to get huge amounts of the alleged chemicals into thousands of airplanes daily.
Yep - planes are putting water vapour, CO2 and other chemicals in the air. Arguably these are nefarious, but no worse than exhaust from conspiracy theorists' cars...
Those vapours dissappear quickly, as shown in the video, and it's shown RIGHT alongside chemtrails which do not disappear at all. . there is a massive difference.
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