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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: Pastor Disaster for Sarah Palin |
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The pastor whose prayer Sarah Palin says helped her to become governor of Alaska founded his ministry with a witch hunt against a Kenyan woman whom he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.
At a speech at the Wasilla Assembly of God on June 8 this year, Palin described how Thomas Muthee had laid his hands on her when he visited the church as a guest preacher in late 2005, prior to her successful gubernatorial bid.
In video footage of the speech, she is seen saying: "As I was mayor and Pastor Muthee was here and he was praying over me, and you know how he speaks and he's so bold. And he was praying "Lord make a way, Lord make a way."
"And I'm thinking, this guy's really bold, he doesn't even know what I'm going to do, he doesn't know what my plans are. And he's praying not "Oh Lord, if it be your will may she become governor," no, he just prayed for it. He said, "Lord make a way and let her do this next step. And that's exactly what happened."
She then adds: "So, again, very, very powerful, coming from this church," before the presiding pastor comments on the "prophetic power" of the event.
An African evangelist, Muthee has given guest sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God on at least 10 occasions in his role as the founder of the Word of Faith Church, also known as the Prayer Cave.
Muthee founded the Prayer Cave in 1989 in Kiambu, Kenya, after "God spoke" to him and his late wife, Margaret, and called him to the country, according to the church's Web site.
The pastor speaks of his offensive against a demonic presence in the town in a trailer for the evangelical video "Transformations," made by Sentinel Group, a Christian research and information agency.
"We prayed, we fasted, the Lord showed us a spirit of witchcraft resting over the place," Muthee says.
After the spirit was broken, the crime rate dropped to almost zero and there was "explosive church growth" while almost every bar in the town closed down, the video says.
The full "Transformations" video featuring Muthee's story has recently been removed from YouTube, but the rest of the story is detailed in a 1999 article in the Christian Science Monitor, as well as on numerous evangelical Web sites.
According to the Christian Science Monitor, six months of fervent prayer and research identified the source of the witchcraft as a local woman called Mama Jane, who ran a "divination" center called the Emmanuel Clinic.
Her alleged involvement in fortune-telling and the fact that she lived near the site of a number of fatal car accidents led Muthee to publicly declare her a witch responsible for the town's ills and order her to offer her up her soul for salvation or leave Kiambu.
Says the Monitor, "Muthee held a crusade that 'brought about 200 people to Christ.'" They set up around-the-clock prayer intercession in the basement of a grocery store and eventually, says the pastor, "the demonic influence -- the 'principality' over Kiambu -- was broken," and Mama Jane fled the town.
According to accounts of the witch hunt that circulated on evangelical Web sites such as Prayer Links Ministries, after Muthee declared Mama Jane a witch, the townspeople became suspicious and began to turn on her, demanding that she be stoned. Public outrage eventually led the police to raid her home, where they fired gunshots, killing a pet python they believed to be a demon.
After Mama Jane was questioned by police -- and released -- she decided it was time to leave town, the account says.
Muthee has frequently referred to this witch hunt in his sermons as an example of the power of "spiritual warfare." In October 2005, he delivered 10 sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God, the audio of which was available on the church's Web site until it was removed around the time Palin's candidacy was announced. The blog Irregular Times has listings and screen grabs of the sermons.
It was during these sermons that Palin, who was then preparing for her gubernatorial run, was anointed by Muthee. His intercession, she says, was "awesome."
Her June 8 speech was to mark the graduation of students from the Wasilla Assembly of God's Masters' Commission, which, as Pastor Ed Kalins explains, believes Alaska will be the refuge for American evangelicals upon the coming "End of Days." After her speech, Palin was presented with an honorary Masters' Commission diploma.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GZAZ_enUS241US242&q=Pastor+Muthee+%2b+Sarah+Palin _________________ I freed thousands of slaves; I could have freed more if they knew they were slaves.
-Harriet Tubman
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Postperson The Daughter of Indifference

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| did you write that yourself? |
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jrknothead News Junkie

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'd lay my hands on her
And a few other things too
As for this article, which aparently has no source, I find it to be less than credible. _________________ Never let your schooling interfere with your education. - Samuel Clemens |
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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie

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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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But you know, in all fairness, did the crime rate really go down at all in the town after the expulsion of the alleged witch, and was there really an explosion of Christianity? Were there no more fatal car crashes in the vicinity, or were traffic statistics unchanged? Has anyone ever evaluated these strange claims?
Merle _________________ I freed thousands of slaves; I could have freed more if they knew they were slaves.
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ja Raven


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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:19 am Post subject: |
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the Caribou have come home to roost!
the US designed caribou to[edited for content by sinsboldly]
God-Caribou America!
No one ever called Hillary a 'Caribou'!
Do you people still think that Obama is an 'African-American' just because of the color of his skin?
Obama grew up a Muslim[i] |
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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| [youtube]http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=8twqZpUT2NQ&feature=related[/youtube] |
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Postperson The Daughter of Indifference

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| I meant that it's appropriate to credit sources on the net. |
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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Postperson wrote: | | I meant that it's appropriate to credit sources on the net. |
yes, I agree, I apologize for forgetting to post the source on the orginal article.
Merle _________________ I freed thousands of slaves; I could have freed more if they knew they were slaves.
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Douglas_MacNeill Velociraptor


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Zara Skyfish

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have heard the story before...
Is Palin aware this pastor did a witch hunt? and does she still support him and accept his prayers?
I'd be more interested in the answers to those questions. _________________ Current obsessions: Berserk
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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Zara wrote: | I have heard the story before...
Is Palin aware this pastor did a witch hunt? and does she still support him and accept his prayers?
I'd be more interested in the answers to those questions. |
wow, you can reject people's prayers? Is that like crossing your fingers behind your back when you tell a fib? She was sure singing his praises in the video.
Merle _________________ I freed thousands of slaves; I could have freed more if they knew they were slaves.
-Harriet Tubman |
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Apatura Mimosa pudica

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Honestly stuff like this will help her with the fundie Christians. |
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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Apatura wrote: | | Honestly stuff like this will help her with the fundie Christians. |
and that is the scariest part. . .
Merle _________________ I freed thousands of slaves; I could have freed more if they knew they were slaves.
-Harriet Tubman |
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