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patrick6
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 Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: Why is sex a sin? |
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Why is sex considered as being a sin when many Christians have children?
What is it that makes sex and lust so sinful to Christians?
I used to a Christian and was always scared to have sex because I thought I was gonna be committing some huge sin if I was to 'do it'. I've had sex many times though since being converted to an Agnostic. I could never understand the whole concept of sex being a sin though. I personally feel that it shouldn't be considered as a sin because that would mean that everyone in the world who's ever had children is a sinner, just because they decided to have kids. |
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LostInEmulation
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Sex within a marriage is AFAIK not a sin as long as no contraceptives are used.
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Sand
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| It is most likely derived from the original problem between Adam and God. Adam, prompted by Eve ate of the forbidden tree of knowledge on the advice of the satanic snake. Psychologically the knowledge contained by the apple was pretty surely the knowledge of sex since the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden left them shameful of their nakedness. Basically it was originally God's prerogative to create new life but sex gave that capability to Adam and Eve through sex and apparently, although God provided both of them with active sexual organs, He wasn't too happy once they found out how to use them. |
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| This is explained in the Bible. Partick6, are you some kind of nymphomaniac? |
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Haliphron
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | This is explained in the Bible. Partick6, are you some kind of nymphomaniac? |
Well do us the favor of explaining it to us here. The right's(particular the religious right) hatred of sex is spectacularly irrational.
God dont like sex yet its the only way that we can reproduce. He also said "be fruitful and muliply".....  |
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: |
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The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is a big hint.
Sex is a gift from God btw, but any gift can be misused. |
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LostInEmulation
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is a big hint.
Sex is a gift from God btw, but any gift can be misused. |
Sodom and Gomorrah was more about rape and about being hostile to guests than about sex itself. (Note that God had no problems with the fact that instead of the angels, the daughter was offered)
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LeKiwi
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I don't get it either, but then, I don't get a lot of things about Christianity, the whole 'everyone is a sinner' thing being the other great example.
Sex is great with someone you love, it's a beautiful thing and without it none of us would be here. So why the shame around it? And the anti-contraception thing is just ridiculous, don't get me started...
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Sand
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| You have to understand Christianity from the point of power. If you can make someone feel guilty then they owe you something. The church is the only source of forgiveness so, more or less literally, they've got you by the balls. |
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LeKiwi
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| Sand wrote: | | You have to understand Christianity from the point of power. If you can make someone feel guilty then they owe you something. The church is the only source of forgiveness so, more or less literally, they've got you by the balls. |
I wasn't going to say it, but... 
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chever
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| slowmutant wrote: | | The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is a big hint. |
Sodom and Gomorrah most likely burned down as a result of seismic activity plus natural gas deposits. If God smote every city that displeased him with its sluttiness, Rio de Janeiro would have long since turned to a pile of ash. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
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Haliphron
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| Sand wrote: | | You have to understand Christianity from the point of power. If you can make someone feel guilty then they owe you something. The church is the only source of forgiveness so, more or less literally, they've got you by the balls. |
Most defnitely. The Catholic church uses guilt to manipulate its followers, protestant churches use fear to manipulate and to convert the gullible. |
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| chever wrote: | | slowmutant wrote: | | The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is a big hint. |
Sodom and Gomorrah most likely burned down as a result of seismic activity plus natural gas deposits. If God smote every city that displeased him with its sluttiness, Rio de Janeiro would have long since turned to a pile of ash. Nothing to see here folks, move along. |
How about 911? 
| LostInEmulation wrote: | | Sodom and Gomorrah was more about rape and about being hostile to guests than about sex itself. (Note that God had no problems with the fact that instead of the angels, the daughter was offered) |
That's because Adam was created first
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carturo222
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1) Sex is related to breeding. If you come from a tribal tradition where the transfer of property is important, you'd better make sure that your children are really yours. Keeping women's sexuality controlled is one way you can make sure that other man's children won't inherit your cattle. The obsession with women's virginity stems from this practical necessity. A woman who freely enjoys her sexuality puts the whole clan structure in risk. Judaism and Islam are heavily patriarchal as a result of these customs.
2) Christianity blended Judean tradition with Greek thought, but that happened at a time when Gnosticism despised the material world as something filthy and inferior. It's only understandable that any physical expression of your true self would be discouraged.
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| slowmutant wrote: | | This is explained in the Bible. |
That sex is only for reproduction, right?
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