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Eggman
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 Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:04 am Post subject: Why not machines |
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| Seriouslym, why wouldnt the earth be better off under the control of machines, humans dont seem to be doing that good of job. |
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oscuria
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:09 am Post subject: Re: Why not machines |
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| Eggman wrote: | | Seriouslym, why wouldnt the earth be better off under the control of machines, humans dont seem to be doing that good of job. |
Well, because you can't mate with them.
Humans aren't meant to be doing that good of a job. They're meant to be humans. Be proud that you can make mistakes. You wouldn't want to brave yourself to death.
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Eggman
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DentArthurDent
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^ eeeewwwww  . Machines will only do what we program them to do and as you stated we are not doing a very good job, so seeing as we will be doing the programming it will probably just be one big f**k up.
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| What's with the first reply seemingly to always be a FULL quote of the above thread? I would understand if there were a few posts in between ... but to be the first to reply by quoting the entire thread above in it's entirety ?? |
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chever
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| DentArthurDent wrote: | | ^ eeeewwwww . Machines will only do what we program them to do and as you stated we are not doing a very good job, so seeing as we will be doing the programming it will probably just be one big f**k up. |
There are computers that essentially 'program themselves', and they are starting to exceed our own abilities.
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ouinon
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Why not machines |
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| Eggman wrote: | | Wouldn't the earth be better off under the control of machines? Humans don't seem to be doing that good of job. |
Without considering whether humans are actually "in control of the earth", would like to point out that if it is under our control then it is already under the control of machines, us. We happen to be one of the most complex, advanced, types of machine around.
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claire333
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I already allow machines to control my life.
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Eggman
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| Keith wrote: | | What's with the first reply seemingly to always be a FULL quote of the above thread? I would understand if there were a few posts in between ... but to be the first to reply by quoting the entire thread above in it's entirety ?? |
Whats with not staying on the subject? |
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Haliphron
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Why not machines |
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| Eggman wrote: | | Seriously, why wouldnt the earth be better off under the control of machines, humans dont seem to be doing that good of job. |
I Agree 
| DentArthurDent wrote: | | ^ eeeewwwww . Machines will only do what we program them to do and as you stated we are not doing a very good job, so seeing as we will be doing the programming it will probably just be one big f**k up. |
Not necessarily. Machine complexity is increasing year by year, AND if we dont already we will soon have machines that can correct programming errors made by silly humans. |
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chever
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LOL, it's already possible to reorganize shitty code by analyzing a digraph of its flow control, although that's not a lot
Regardless, I don't know how fast computers will become functionally sentient, but I can say this: they aren't getting 'dumber'
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| claire333 wrote: | | I already allow machines to control my life. |
Curious, do you want to expand upon that?
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Machines have no conscience, no emotions, no care about human life. They run on dry logic. Humans aren't made that way because we have emotions, we have needs, we have (although disappearing) a conscience.
Too, would humans not be needed to make machines? |
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chever
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| snake321 wrote: | | Machines have no conscience, no emotions, no care about human life. They run on dry logic. Humans aren't made that way because we have emotions, we have needs, we have (although disappearing) a conscience. |
Machines do not have these kinds of constraints, and, from the perspective of survival, can be considered superior.
| snake321 wrote: | | Too, would humans not be needed to make machines? |
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Haliphron
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| snake321 wrote: | Machines have no conscience, no emotions, no care about human life. They run on dry logic. Humans aren't made that way because we have emotions, we have needs, we have (although disappearing) a conscience.
Too, would humans not be needed to make machines? |
Why would machines Need emotions? In fact, why would they have no *needs* in the first place?
The concept of Want/desire is so fundamental that I dont know if I could explain it to someone or something that asked me what it is.  |
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