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spudnik
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 Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: Kill gays, independant federal candidate says |
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Kill gays, independant federal candidate says
High school debate audience shocked; fellow candidates say nothing
By ANGELA SCAPPATURA, Sun Media
SUDBURY — Police are investigating whether an independent federal candidate committed a hate crime by telling high school students homosexuals should be executed.
David Popescu was invited to participate in a federal candidates' discussion at Sudbury Secondary School yesterday. He made the comment after a student asked his opinion of gay marriage.
Within hours, the Greater Sudbury Police Service said they were investigating.
"We are actively conducting a criminal investigation in this matter," deputy police chief Frank Elsner said.
The police service plans to share its evidence with the provincial Attorney General's office, which will provide direction on whether or not a criminal charge is warranted. More than 200 students gathered in the school's auditorium to hear candidates from the NDP, Liberal Party and the First Peoples National Party.
Popescu introduced himself with a public prayer, blaming environmental damage and economic unrest on the wickedness of society. His comments were met with silence as some students grimaced and shifted in their seats.
Near the end of the more than two-hour event, students were invited to ask the candidates questions. As a long line of pupils waited to speak, Popescu told a young female student who asked about stem cell research that, "God would hurt" those who had an abortion.
The crowd jeered and many rose to their feet in protest after Popescu answered another teenager's question on gay marriage.
During a telephone interview later in the day, Popescu reasserted his view. "A young man asked me what I think of homosexual marriages and I said I think homosexuals should be executed," he said. "My whole reason for running is the Bible and the Bible couldn't be more clear on that point."
Candidates and teachers looked on in silence as students called for him to be "cut off." Despite their outrage, the discussion moved to other topics. Paul Camillo, principal of Sudbury Secondary, emphasized the school's inclusiveness in his closing remarks but did not condemn the statement.
"We're here today to hear what the candidates have to say," he said in an interview. "As an inclusive school, we respect all other opinion although we may not agree with them — and I know there were definitely some things said today that we don't agree with."
When Sun Media-owned Sudbury Star later requested a comment on the controversy from the Rainbow District School Board, the board directed Camillo to provide its response, rather than the board's chair or director of education.
Camillo said he could not state whether Popescu would be welcomed back to Sudbury Secondary, as a candidate in a future political debate.
An advocate for the Sudbury Gay and Lesbian community said while Popescu's extreme views are well known, he has never said something "so extreme." "He's not simply saying that lesbians or gay men are mentally ill or somehow deviant or criminals. He's saying we should be subject to the death penalty," said Gary Kinsman.
"I think sometimes violence and hatred towards gays and lesbians gets dressed up in sort of a religious guise and is somehow tolerated. I just don't think it should be tolerated at all."
Kinsman was particularly concerned the comments were made before a group of young people.
"There are lots of young people in high schools in Sudbury who are struggling with their sexualities. Often times, it's pretty hard time for them," he said. "To say something to young people is pretty terrible." |
http://www.edmontonsun.com/canadavotes/news/2008/10/01/6941616.html
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TallyMan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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The man sounds positively evil. It baffles me how people can give a platform to such a bigot to espouse his hatred.
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| David Popescu will not be a very popular candidate. He'd be much better received in Iran. |
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spudnik
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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He's a fringe party, they are usually made up of very few members.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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I had never heard of David Popescu or even Sudbury until this thread.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Letter to Dr. Laura : What about all these other rules in the bible?
Let's pretend there are 12 commandments.
11.thou shalt not be gay
12.thou shalt not have an abortion
11 is easy for straight people
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12 is easy for all men
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everyone else would kill straight men for lieing and stealing and committing adultery.
BUT one of the commandments is: THOU SHALT NOT KILL. |
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| ValMikeSmith wrote: | Letter to Dr. Laura : What about all these other rules in the bible?
Let's pretend there are 12 commandments.
11.thou shalt not be gay
12.thou shalt not have an abortion
11 is easy for straight people
and
12 is easy for all men
and
everyone else would kill straight men for lieing and stealing and committing adultery.
BUT one of the commandments is: THOU SHALT NOT KILL. |
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donkey
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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the 1th commandment is already well known and widely practiced :
dont get caught.
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| donkey wrote: | the 1th commandment is already well known and widely practiced :
dont get caught. |
That is not the 1st Commandment.
"Have No Other Gods Before Me (Yahweh)" is the 1st Commandment. |
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ValMikeSmith
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe donkey's 1th commandment is in Basement Cat's bible.
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Zara
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Well.... on one hand, he's got a right to his opinion...
On the other hand, he's not going to get elected on his opinions.
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess this guy is a big believer in Levitcus. But has he forgotten about the gospels? |
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Roxas_XIII
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Taking this conversation back to politics... I'm no big fan of homosexuality myself, but what this dude said will probably be his undoing. Nowadays in America you don't pull a Hitler and expect no one to notice...
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ValMikeSmith
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Leviticus says everyone must get stoned. HIM FIRST!
I also doubt he's a Levite. They all probably stoned themselves into extinction.
But he could be the last one. Let's hope he doesn't make the same mistake twice.
(That is supposed to be funny.) |
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Jkid
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ValMikeSmith wrote: |
BUT one of the commandments is: THOU SHALT NOT KILL. |
Actually some translations say THOU SHALT NOT MURDER. To kill someone is murder. |
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