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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo Phoenix

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Joined: Jun 19, 2008 Posts: 1762 Location: US, midmap
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: Government Plans to Invest In Banks. |
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What do you think of that?
Is it the same as the US government owning the banks? Is this the US government's move to own aquire the banking industry?
What do you all think? |
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TheMidnightJudge Ghost in the Machine

Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Posts: 1379 Location: New England
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I would actually trust the government with the banking industry slightly more than the current owners. _________________ "My witness is the empty sky" |
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ValMikeSmith Velociraptor


Joined: May 19, 2008 Posts: 488 Location: Stranger in a strange land
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, what you SHOULD REALLY fear is the banks owning the government! |
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Inventor Phoenix


Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 2822 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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It is all in the details, if they buy worthless Common Stock from their friends, like they have been buying worthless debt, it is bailing out the stockholders.
Government regulates the banks, what more control do they need?
The plain fact is, mortgages are worth several hundred trillion less than face value now.
The Dow is down 9 trillion from 14,000, the national debt is now 11 trillion since the bailout, so it is more lost than could be covered.
When banks fail they are taken over by solvent banks, at book value.
There is no need for the government to buy losers from losers.
Business makes money, business loses money. Greed drove them to lose big time.
Now the banks refuse to loan money, they should go out of business.
It is the only way to value assets to the current market.
The government should go out of business, just for thinking of going into business.
They chose between the doners and the People, so they are bankrupt. |
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Tim_Tex WP's Resident Simpsons and South Park Aficionado

Joined: Jul 03, 2004 Age: 28 Posts: 22319 Location: San Marcos, Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| ValMikeSmith wrote: | | Well, what you SHOULD REALLY fear is the banks owning the government! |
I agree. _________________ When you need something, that's a responsibility, that only an adult...of my maturity...Bunnies!!!
~Meatwad, Aqua Teen Hunger Force |
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Zara Skyfish

Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Age: 28 Posts: 1583 Location: Deep Dungeon, VA
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if feel it's a good idea...
What are they going to do if this doesn't work and the shares lose value? We'll be losing even more money... _________________ Current obsessions: Berserk
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Inventor Phoenix


Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 2822 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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The latest is to nationalize the banks?
Buying bad assets will not work, more are going bad.
Buying stock in banks with bad assets is the same.
I hate to say it, but it makes sense to fund banks.
Highly restricted funds, they can loan them, but not mix them with the losses.
The banks are one problem, getting some float capital moving is another.
Some very sound business runs on short term funding.
Buy materials, pay labor, deliver product, and consumers who can fund the purchase.
We cannot fix housing, stop building and wait.
As most mortgages are performing, little choice but to leave it alone.
Those with subprime collections are going to lose, and should.
Those with good credit should be able to continue borrowing, or we lose the economy.
We the People put up the funds, and as banks fold, We the People buy them, at fair value.
People buy houses, Fanny and Freddie buy the mortgage, so we cut out the middle men.
Banks as a service, like the Post Office.
Next, We the People own the oil in the ground, I can see paying a fee to have it drilled, refined, then it is ours. Then we sell it to people who distribute.
Something is wrong when oil companies make billions a day on the People's oil.
Next, we Nationalize the Government, Of the People, By the People, For the People, via the Internet. |
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