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I read somewhere Paris Hilton has Asperger's Sydrome and that's why she was released from jail early. Her sensory overloads and other AS related issues made jailtime rough and she wanted to be around people she knew really well, couldn't handle being around that many strangers, etc.
Remember when she experienced a meltdown in her cell?
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NocturnalQuilter
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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It is a slippery slope hoping for a cure for being yourself.
I've heard it almost all my adult life- an alleged "cure" for being gay (as though it were still a sickness).
Our western culture constantly drills in our esteem that our flaws must be cured.
I saw a documentary in which a few individuals with dwarfism had their legs broken and pinned in such a way that they hoped to gain 4 or 5 inches in height. The process is excrutiatingly painful and leaves permanent scars. I fail to understand how that is a better choice to just being who and what you were born to be.
ASD is not a sickenss one catches from shaking hands or drinking fountains. It is a neurological condition.
It's like trying to "cure" being left-handed.
You cannot cure a condition of being.
I think of life as a poker game. You play the cards you are dealt to the best of your ability. Those that cheat (pulling that ace out their sleave) get cheated in the end. |
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Danielismyname
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| Apart from the anxiety and sensory sensitivities (a simple change will send me into "mute mode", and the world constantly stabs me with its sensory needles), I don't mind this whole Autism/Asperger's/whatever it's called today, thingy. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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I go into "mute mode' quite often too even though I can speak. Usually when I am around lots of people I go into "mute".
If I had more drive I would try harder to talk to people but whenever I try something discourages me from doing so and I lose my nerve and stay quiet.
This is one of the disadvantages, yeah, I admit. I think I have plenty of better qualities.
It could be worse. |
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Fuzzy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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When my dad was young it was customary to attempt to change left handed kids to right handers by tying their left hand behind their back.
Its a good example of a neurological difference. And at the time, it was considered a defect.
The end result of this forced 'therapy' was often health issues. Depression for sure was one derived 'benefit', but of course, nobody could be clinically depressed either. It also wasnt recognized.
Make peace with who you are and the mind that you have. Then find a niche where you fit in. It might be hard, but its a far happier journey than making yourself something you are not.
Given time, the difficulties you experience will lessen. They are often a factor of youth. The ability to learn and adapt provides people with the ability to overcome shortcomings.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| And one last thing...not all NTs are bad people who hate Aspies... |
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Spokane_Girl
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Left hand was a problem because companies didn't make left handed products and it made things harder for left handers to do so I can see why parents would try and get their kids to use their right hand and learn to write with it and do everything with it.
I don't understand how scissors are made for right handed, knifes, baseball bats, pencils, etc. They look the same to me you can use on any hand. How can they be hard to use on your left?
Only thing I see different is mitts, there are left handed mitts and right handed mitts. The only difference is the inside is reversed where you put your hand.
I wonder if computer mouses get made for left handed too.
I heard it's hard to use a computer when you are left handed because of the mouse. I say just move it to the other side of the computer and learn to use the buttons the reverse way. It would be reverse to them but not to us right handed.
But the scroll bar is on the right side of the internet, not on the left. They can scroll down on the right. I sometimes use my left hand when I scroll down on my boyfriend's laptop.
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Fuzzy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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You can switch the mouse button functions left to right in all the modern operating systems. In windows go to control panel and find mouse. The settings are there. Set the left mouse button to right click and the right mouse button to click. Hit apply and they will be swapped.
Back in the old days things like car doors were build right handedly, with a button to be depressed with the right thumb. Nowadays you have that lift-latch sort that works equally well with either hand.
But the point of 'retraining' peoples handedness was more to do with with superstition and downright stupidness. In Latin the left hand is called sinister, which of course also connotes with evil. The right hand is dexter.
If you write with your left hand, your letters lean the opposite way which of course, breaks form with the rigid penmanship taught back then.
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Spokane_Girl
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How can a door be built for right handed? You just use your left hand to open it or close it. Same as pressing the buttons. I don't see how they can be pressed with the right thumb only.
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Fuzzy
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Lost my post messing with mouse settings!
You can press the button with either thumb, but it leaves your hand and wrist in an awkward position. Your wrist is locked and rigid when you go to swing the door open.
Anyway. I tried to find some sample photos. My explanation wasn't the greatest. I couldn't find any reasonable sized ones.
So I will try to draw one out, ok?
Found a picture!
Its actually a good example of a door thats easier to open left handedly, but it illustrates the point. If you were to operate it with your right hand, your palm would be upwards and in swinging the door open your wrist would lock. You would have to cross your arm over your body. Now if you had your left hand full of something bulky or important, it could be very awkward. I would assume that a lefty bias would mean your left hand is already in use before trying to open that door. You'd have to shuffle things around.
Some of the other old doors had a swinging latch; the handle pulled out from the door to disengage the internal locking mechanism.
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Corydaman93
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| What really sucks is that the AS bright sides are not that noticeable, not as conspicuous as the negatives. If I had cancer at least lots of people would care about me, compared to AS. I feel your hate man! |
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NocturnalQuilter
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| Corydaman93 wrote: | | What really sucks is that the AS bright sides are not that noticeable, not as conspicuous as the negatives. If I had cancer at least lots of people would care about me, compared to AS. I feel your hate man! |
Yes, and statistically speaking you would die far sooner than you would with AS.
Really, this pitty party is getting on my last gay nerve. 
I would rather NOT have ASD but I do so I deal with it. I don't draw ridiculous, SELFISH comparisons and I have never wished I had a terrible, horrifying, painful disease to garner the care of people who wouldn't give it to me anyway. How effed-up is that?
It's a damned good thing I can't reach right through this monitor and smack the crap outta some of you people.
Seriously. I'm all for healthy doses of self-deprecation but this........
I'm done. |
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Spokane_Girl
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| Fuzzy wrote: | Lost my post messing with mouse settings!
You can press the button with either thumb, but it leaves your hand and wrist in an awkward position. Your wrist is locked and rigid when you go to swing the door open.
Anyway. I tried to find some sample photos. My explanation wasn't the greatest. I couldn't find any reasonable sized ones.
So I will try to draw one out, ok?
Found a picture!
Its actually a good example of a door thats easier to open left handedly, but it illustrates the point. If you were to operate it with your right hand, your palm would be upwards and in swinging the door open your wrist would lock. You would have to cross your arm over your body. Now if you had your left hand full of something bulky or important, it could be very awkward. I would assume that a lefty bias would mean your left hand is already in use before trying to open that door. You'd have to shuffle things around.
Some of the other old doors had a swinging latch; the handle pulled out from the door to disengage the internal locking mechanism. |
I see now. I guess lefties would have to use their right to open the old car doors. I open car doors with both my hands. On the left, I use my left, on the right, I use my right. It's like car companies made it equal so we learn how to use both hands while operating the car. We grow up opening car doors to get in so we learn to use both hands to do it.
I'm not sure how it feels to use a stick shift while driving if you're a leftie but in the UK you have to use your left to operate a stick shift. I wonder if it was awkward for my mother.
I've had to open a car door on the left side with my right BTW when I fell on my left arm and broke my joint. I would use my right to open it and then stick my fingers in the door and pull it open. Then I had to use my right again to close the door. It hurt like heck if I tried stretching out my left arm so I had to keep it folded. I even typed with one hand and used one hand to move the arrow and clicking the button on my dad's laptop. It was very awkward but I did it. I got used to it.
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LadyMacbeth
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: I don't want to be an Aspie. I want that cure. |
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| Chimchar wrote: | Everytime I see "The positive autism traits" I get sort of irritated. I don't mind having positive traits, but how is above average IQ, special interests and good memory going to help you in life? How is it going to help you get a job? How is it going to help you take care of yourself when you're 25? What the point of "special interests" if you can't master it? Why waste your time on something you'll never be good at? What I hate about interests are, you only get the knowledge of the subject not the skill, and they change erratically to something else. It's going to affect my choice in major.
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Everything you have just said is how you're going to get a job and look after yourself. Thick ppl who can't remember what they had for breakfast don't get far in life.. and if they do, they get resented for it. Just look for jobs which involve your special interests. Easy. And if yours are erratic and random, do temp work. That's what I do. And you're going to university? Dude, you're most of the way there.
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choetso
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: A cure? For sure? |
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Have any of you heard about the opioid peptide theory of autism?
I have no diagnosis, but feel related to the symptoms of mild/high functioning autism.
I have studied biochemistry at the university, and did my research with dr. Reichelt in Oslo.
I avoid milk proteins and gluten. This makes me much better in many ways. The social phobia is almost gone. I remember to do the paperwork of taxes, bills etc... Many small things.
Anyone else tried this?
You can have a test for opioid peptides done by urine analysis.
You then will be told if you have peptide residues from milk and/or gluten. You might consider a diet without these foods.
As near to a cure as I ever heard for a good deal of autists, anyway. Asperger I dont know enough about. But diagnosis is somewhat difficult yes?
Also helped by this diet: Depressed. Bipolars. Schizophrenics. Migraine and rheumatism patients. ADHD-diagnosed. But most of all autists.
A very few Tourettes have been analyzed by dr. Reichelt. All (!) of them had gluten-derived peptides in their urine!
Many conditions may be diagnosed as Asperger, autism etc. So of course many underlying reasons. Not all peptides.
But safe&easy to try diet on your very own!
Be careful to eat nutritional things "instead" of the milk/cheese/bread/pasta etc
Nuts are good. Fish, meat poultry. Vegetables, fruit. Almonds and sesame seeds are high in calcium.
I can write a lot about this subject if anyone's interested. Maybe a thread for this alone?
A good indication this is your problem is: you feel very addicted to the milk/gluten things. Opioid peptides. Caseo[u]morphine[/u]. Binds to your morphine receptors! Milk junkie me....
Strong abstinences show you are on the right track. Headache very common. Strong desire to eat something with kasein/gluten.
Be careful not to replace milk with soya milk. Soya can also give opioid peptides!
Eggs are also suspected. Spinach.
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