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Synth
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I really don't care if you think I'm right, and I know you are not sincere so whatever you say.
My understanding has been brought forth, and there is nothing left to say on this matter.
All I was trying to do is make you see you were not being very kind to someone who needed kindness badly in the first place, which is something you still can't seem to grasp.. So it's out of my hands. |
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choetso
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Joined: Oct 13, 2008
Age: 45
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:25 am Post subject: food matters! |
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Soooo....
Somebody have actually dropped gluten...
Did it have any effect on other symptoms than stomach?
As to surviving on a diet:
I lived without milk products and gluten products for one year. OK it was very difficult. But I didnt get hungry a lot.
Basis was rice. Then lentils, beans etc as I am poor. Meat fish and poultry was luxury.
Lots of fresh fruit helps. Raw and cooked vegetables.
Oats are without gluten! I ate a lot of that! Porridge or plain oats with orange juice 
We have oatsmilk here in sweden! Very nice. Rice milk is an alternative. But oats are good in itself, with fatty acids and so on. Very good.
I think what we eat influence us very much. Especially when we dont feel good, we should pay attention to what we eat.
I want research on this. I am writing a thesis on these so called opioid peptides.
Please post links if you stumble upon something connected... |
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:58 am Post subject: |
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OP:
On another thread you expressed interest in writing a story. I take it writing might be an interest of yours. Another strategy can be working on developing the writing. People will notice what you do and start being complimentary and supportive so it won't matter as much if you are eccentric and have different ways of socializing or dislike socializing, not on the same page, whatever you want to call it.
Having AS can be a rewarding, fun life if you can accept yourself and work around it, being creative with your special interest and working on that is one way to work around other "AS" issues that cause frustration. |
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Sorenna
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ANyone who has cancer deserves pity and has a right to be depressed if they want to be.
I get so sick and tired of people who are facing something horrific and everyone wants them to buck up and quit pitying themselves.
Once they suffer the unimaginable and then go into eternity, does it matter WTF they feel or say or think? I think it's ridiculous to make someone act like they are coping when they are not. Why? So YOU can feel better?
Let them feel what they feel and to hell with those who are too stupid and removed from suffering to understand what it feels like to be overwhelmed.
As far as people being more compassionate to those with physical porblems? That is a load of crap. Watch a Dr tell an uninsured mother of 5 that he won't do surgery on her because hse has no insurance. A man at my church was about to have to have a colostomy bag for like- at 22- because the Dr's wanted a $25,000 down payment. No one gave a crap that he was young and about to have a bag of poop eterally stuck to his side.
Eventually the church stepped in, but I can't say they ever showed him any more comapssion than they showed me, which was a nice amount. |
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aspieprincess365
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: Understood. |
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| I do understand what Chimchar is talking about though. I'm in an English class where the other students hate me because of the positive traits of Asperger's. It's saddening. It makes my life extremely difficult. GRAAAH. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I was hated by everyone until I left high school. College was much easier. |
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DW_a_mom
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Peace out, everyone.
First, if someone is feeling poorly and needs to express it, that is what forums like this are for. Saying "snap out of it," isn't constructive, but trying to find avenues of hope for the person can be. Or, sometimes, just being empathetic. Everyone's experience is different, it is impossible to say that someone else's feelings are not valid, because without living their life, how does one know that?
However, it is also reasonable for someone to call out an analogy that may not really be appropriate, especially if it is a sensitive topic at this time. If someone you care about is suffering immensely from cancer, it is completely natural to get upset when someone suggests such a disease might be better than AS, for whatever reasons they make that comparison.
When both think about it, they will be aware they've hit on currently sensitive areas for the other. Sometimes it's best for the rest of us to stay out of it, and leave the two to clear it up for themselves. They both have a right to their feelings, although certainly there can be more tactful and less tactful ways to express them.
I hope the OP can find her way out of the darkness. 18 is a difficult age, one of uncertainty, and I am sure it is far more complicated when you know you have a condition that changes the odds. I've posted what I hope are helpful comments, and I've read some others that I think were good comments, but only the OP can know what applies for her. Life is difficult for most people, though not in the same ways for everyone, and it takes a lot of life experience to see beyond all those facades.
And I am praying for NQ's mother, because I've gone through this, and cancer is a horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE disease, and until you have watched someone die from it, you can't possibly know why the reference in this thread struck such a cord.
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KiyokosOnlyOnigiri
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I understand and sometimes feel that way, but I doubt there's a cure. We don't even know the source of AS. I remember a staff who said that they'd rather be an idiot than not have social skills, but I'll hope I can deal with the cards that life gives me.
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Chimchar
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| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you all. I deeply apologize for using cancer as a reference. I just didn.t want my aspergers interfering with my life. My future. I am again very sorry. |
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DiabloDave363
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THERE IS NO CURE!
THERE IS NO MAJIKAL PILL THAt WILL MAKE IT GO AWAY! LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT!
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choetso
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| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: The neurochemist view |
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We do not know there is no cure. We suspect there is a connection with enzyme deficiency. Leading to neuropeptides on the loose. From bread. From milk. The devil in the milk. Bread is opium for the masses.
Who is normal anyway? |
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choetso
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| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: A pill for everything! |
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The majikal pill might then contain an enzyme breaking down these very opioid peptides.
But rationally: Better to restrict intake.
And please: lots of research on what makes this deficiency so common these days. Dare I mention heavy metals? |
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DW_a_mom
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| Chimchar wrote: | | Thank you all. I deeply apologize for using cancer as a reference. I just didn.t want my aspergers interfering with my life. My future. I am again very sorry. |
I knew you would understand.
I really hope you will find the road to turning your AS into an asset for your life, instead of seeing it as interfering. I know that is hard, very hard. You are at a life stage where everything seems so uncertain and so scary, and it is easy to see how knowing you have a condition that comes with burdens makes you worry more, and make you wish you different have it.
Do deal with the associated conditions that make life harder, to the extent you can. I think that is important. And learn your work-arounds. You will be fine, as long as you don't give up.
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Bataar
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| DW_a_mom wrote: | | Chimchar wrote: | | Thank you all. I deeply apologize for using cancer as a reference. I just didn.t want my aspergers interfering with my life. My future. I am again very sorry. |
I knew you would understand.
I really hope you will find the road to turning your AS into an asset for your life, instead of seeing it as interfering. I know that is hard, very hard. You are at a life stage where everything seems so uncertain and so scary, and it is easy to see how knowing you have a condition that comes with burdens makes you worry more, and make you wish you different have it.
Do deal with the associated conditions that make life harder, to the extent you can. I think that is important. And learn your work-arounds. You will be fine, as long as you don't give up. |
I'm not trying to be rude, I'm genuinely curious about this. How can Asperger's be an asset? The only thing I'm able to think of if if you're lucky enough that your intense interest open up a viable career opportunity. For those of us without that option, I can't see anything positive about it. |
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DW_a_mom
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| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Bataar wrote: |
I'm not trying to be rude, I'm genuinely curious about this. How can Asperger's be an asset? The only thing I'm able to think of if if you're lucky enough that your intense interest open up a viable career opportunity. For those of us without that option, I can't see anything positive about it. |
Since I don't know you personally, I can't say what the assets are for you.
For my son, while his ability to think outside of the box can make things difficult, it is also an asset. He truly thinks in ways that others cannot. He is only 11 and has invented amazing games and such. Ok, so he has to accept that some 90% are off the mark and not of interest to anyone but him, but the hits have been really fun for him. While the ratio was difficult for him to deal with at first, he's come to accept that as "normal," and doesn't allow it to deter from being excited for every idea.
Many AS have really high IQ's and an ability to see complex logical relationships that others cannot. Most of the great innovators of our time are believed to be AS.
Many AS are very creative and talented either as writers or actors or musicians.
When you get someone with AS focused on something that interests them, they can achieve amazing things. So you may have to play around with that focus or interest, or channel it, so that it becomes something able to earn money.
My AS husband is an engineer, as was my AS father. A logical, technical job.
My son wants to be an inventor, and we're working with him on achieving that goal.
I think, however, that the roads to success can be difficult for someone with AS to see. My husband and son are easily frustrated and see dead-ends where what really is needed is a detour. Because I'm not AS (some traits, but more NT), I can see the detour required, and help them find it. It has taken me a long time to understand that they really cannot see it, and it can be difficult even with my help, but that alternate road really is there, and both my husband and son get so happy when they finally see it as well, and they've both had a lot of success taking those detours.
An example would be my husband's career. After years of working with the same company, he was tired of it. He wanted a change. But he figured since he can do what he can do, and he had one technical degree, change was impossible, unless it was the exact same job somewhere else. Even for that, he thought he could never get through the interview. We practiced together, I worked with him, his first interview resulted in a job offer, just like that. Which gave him confidence, even though he realized that wasn't the change he needed, and turned the job down. Many swings and turns later, he has started a company (which he found he didn't like running, and closed, but it was a huge personal growth experience) and he is now working for a company in the alternative energy sector, still being mostly an engineer, but also branching out into areas he had never thought he could. Ten years ago he would have said that having his own company or working outside of 100% engineering was impossible. He has now done or is doing both.
What you need is someone who knows you well and is willing and able to help you see the paths that you cannot. They really do exist, I know that from life with my own family, but I also understand why you have a hard time believing it.
And you aren't being rude for asking. I just hope you don't discount my sincerity in answering.
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