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aspergian_mutant
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aspergian_mutant
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| perhaps someday someone will create the unbelievable, but in the mean time I think on such claims they should at least want to see proof before allowing patents. |
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kevv729
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Alot people get patents even though whatever they get a patent for might not work in the end. Just the way it is.
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snowman
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| Asimov brings up the issue of an anti-gravity device in one of his novellas. Very good one i might ad. But that is almost obvious. |
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Remnant
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:00 am Post subject: Re: Patent issued for anti-gravity device |
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| aspergian_mutant wrote: | Patent issued for anti-gravity device
http://www.physorg.com/news8042.html
The journal Nature said patent 6,960,975 was granted Nov. 1 to Boris Volfson of Huntington, Ind., for a space vehicle propelled by a superconducting shield that alters the curvature of space-time outside the craft in a way that counteracts gravity.
One of the main theoretical arguments against anti-gravity is that it implies the availability of unlimited energy.
"If you design an anti-gravity machine, you've got a perpetual-motion machine," Robert Park of the American Physical Society told Nature.
Park said the action shows patent examiners are being duped by false science. |
This is a fallacious argument, argument by consequences. Just because you think that the consequences of an idea are impossible does not mean that the idea itself is necessarily impossible. I notice that Park does not address the question of whether a superconductor deflects gravity or not. |
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DrizzleMan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| If the device works, the guy will be very rich and we'll all be flying through space. If not, I just wasted ten seconds typing this sentence. |
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Endersdragon
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I want one I want one 
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DrizzleMan
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Maglev is real enough, but those conspiracy theories are just cute! I remember reading about the Searl effect years ago.
| Quote: | | This book chronicles the life of a simple man David Hamel who has built several antigravity prototypes which actually flew. His design has been called the poor man's Searl disc by other experts due to its simplicity. In fact this design is so simple that it can be built from magnets available at Radio Shack! Proceeds from the sales of the book goes towards helping Mr. Hamel to continue his research. He has said anyone can have the secret, build the machine and produce his own energy - something the oil cartels and multinational corporations wouldn't exactly appreciate. David Hamel has proven with his three prototypes, the theory of electro-gravitational energy. Further to that, the relationship between electricity and magnetism is definitely the answer to the energy crisis that exists today. Contains great technical info for building his craft. |
If he really wants to spread his secret and save the world by giving everyone free energy, why doesn't he release his book for free on the 'net? He'll be an international hero; I'm sure some rich people will reward him for his generosity (and for lessening their power bills)
The fact that he values the measly price of an ebook above international fame suggests that his ebook isn't worth the paper it's printed on 
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Remnant
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| DrizzleMan wrote: |
Maglev is real enough, but those conspiracy theories are just cute! I remember reading about the Searl effect years ago.
| Quote: | | This book chronicles the life of a simple man David Hamel who has built several antigravity prototypes which actually flew. His design has been called the poor man's Searl disc by other experts due to its simplicity. In fact this design is so simple that it can be built from magnets available at Radio Shack! Proceeds from the sales of the book goes towards helping Mr. Hamel to continue his research. He has said anyone can have the secret, build the machine and produce his own energy - something the oil cartels and multinational corporations wouldn't exactly appreciate. David Hamel has proven with his three prototypes, the theory of electro-gravitational energy. Further to that, the relationship between electricity and magnetism is definitely the answer to the energy crisis that exists today. Contains great technical info for building his craft. |
If he really wants to spread his secret and save the world by giving everyone free energy, why doesn't he release his book for free on the 'net? He'll be an international hero; I'm sure some rich people will reward him for his generosity (and for lessening their power bills)
The fact that he values the measly price of an ebook above international fame suggests that his ebook isn't worth the paper it's printed on |
Actually, David Hamel is doing just exactly the right thing. Selling books is a very legitimate way to raise funding for research. Valuing the price of the book is something that a man has no choice about. What, get a few hundred dollars for an article in an industry magazine that few people will read? Industry will steal his ideas if he tries to sell them to them, and he will get squat. He deserves to be paid for his work if it helps advance science. |
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DrizzleMan
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| I meant that I doubt his invention works. I won't rule out the possibility, but I wouldn't spend money on it. |
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